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278 utterances · click to jump
00:02
S0
Prior to perceiving an enlightenment, I thought that meditation was really a wonderful idea.
00:11
S0
Now I really need about five or six hours a day.
00:18
S0
Given kids and given all of this stuff, a whole lot of that has to happen during the night and it turns out that if you're meditating enough, sleep becomes kind of a silly joke.
00:30
S0
But prior to perceiving enlightenment, I couldn't meditate. I'd go like this and I'd start having conversations about what I should be doing, what I could be doing, that I really wasn't that comfortable where I'm sitting, that I really have you ever done this? Afterwards,
00:47
S0
I couldn't not do it and nothing got in the way.
00:53
S0
It couldn't get in the way. It was impossible.
00:57
S0
So when it was taking my medicine it was hard. When it was who I was, it was easy.
01:13
S0
Assignments for tomorrow. Tomorrow's an integration day. It's a course day. You just don't come here.
01:21
S0
How many of you are planning on being busy tomorrow?
01:27
S0
Good for you. The more stimuli, the better. What the heck?
01:34
S0
Oh.
01:42
S0
Please go on a scavenger hunt tomorrow.
01:46
S0
You know what that means?
01:49
S1
See the scavenger hunt exercise in your booklet.
01:53
S2
Yes. Yes. Yes.
01:55
S0
Okay. So go on a scavenger hunt tomorrow. Please get glue,
02:01
S0
a canceled stamp,
02:11
S1
a
02:11
S0
piece of pasta,
02:18
S0
a joke,
02:23
S0
and used gum,
02:26
S0
and
02:29
S0
a toenail clipping. Rules are one item per house. I
02:41
S0
strongly suggest you go with somebody else in the course if you possibly can work that out. Go up to the door, knock on it, you say I'm doing a course, we're doing a scavenger hunt. Watch them. Especially if you're with somebody else from the group, it's one person per house. You both go up, but one of you does the talking. The other one watches the patterns. Watchers the pictures, sounds and feelings, watches any emotions, watches the dance go on. Any of you who think this might be an imposition, it's not.
03:18
S0
It's not an imposition at all. Brian tried a little experiment on my suggestion down in Houston. Do you hear this?
03:30
S0
I suggested that they go up to people's houses that they had never met and knock on the door and ask them if they could have if he could have dinner with them.
03:40
S0
First house said no.
03:43
S0
Second house, it was quite an evening, wasn't it?
03:48
S0
A man and his kid and Brian sat with them and shared dinner and then didn't wanna leave.
04:00
S0
The man and his kid will probably not be the same for a long time out of this.
04:09
S0
Imagine somebody comes to your door, kind of attractive guy who looks a little like Paul Newman,
04:17
S0
sans dressing, and asks you if he can have dinner with you. Wouldn't it be a different world if people did this? And you didn't have to wonder what their motivation was and what their all of this junk was. The
04:36
S0
day that I graduate the evening of the day that I graduated from high school, I headed to Alaska from just outside Chicago, Chicago suburbs hitchhiking.
04:48
S0
Fascinating two month trip. Lost about 30 pounds in the first two weeks.
04:56
S0
Ended up in Haight Ashbury. This was 1968. Not really a bad time to be in Haight Ashbury. Alaska's a pit. No offense. But when you're camping and you've already cut the bottom of your tent out so that you don't have too much weight
05:12
S0
and and the mosquitoes are and the sun almost never goes down. And when it goes down, you're too cold. And then until it goes down, you're too hot sleeping in this shopper's world piece of crap tent. Yuck. It was a wonderful trip,
05:31
S0
and it was an education. Remember when you could do that? How many of you pick up hitchhikers? You hardly ever see them though, do you?
05:40
S0
Wouldn't it be interesting if they if they just came up to your door and said, could I
05:46
S0
you know, sure. Bring your patterns on in. We'll have a look at you. So stand up if you're gonna do the scavenger hunt tomorrow, please. I don't want anybody to do it who's not gonna do it. You won't. Okay? Okay. Thanks. Stand up if you won't do it. That'll be an easier thing. What can you figure out a way to do it?
06:08
S3
I don't know how to do it and get a toenail clipping. I think I could get the rest of it as the
06:13
S0
Something in them but about a toenail clipping, isn't there? Okay. So you guys won't? No. Okay. Thanks.
06:20
S0
Now don't do it.
06:22
S3
Could I get a
06:23
S0
Don't shift something and do it.
06:25
S3
Could I get a fingernail clipping since I'm doing it at the hotel? Could I get a fingernail clipping instead?
06:31
S0
Can you believe how people think a pubic hair. You just signed yourself up for one harder. No. You wanna talk some more?
06:50
S0
There used to be this beast called the s training, which was a two weekend training. How many of you have done it? I don't mean the forum. I mean the s training. Remember what they did the first day of the training? They go from, like, nine in the morning until two, three, four, 05:00 the next morning, all talking about the rules of the training. Nothing but the rules of the training. There are, like, 15 or 20 different rules of the training. They will spend four hours on you're not allowed to have a watch in the room. And at the end of the four hours, Myra raises her hand and says, does it count if it's over in my luggage and it's my grandmother's old watch? And you've just dwelled on this for four hours and you wanna kill her. And then you remember
07:53
S0
that you have a a travel clock in your luggage, and you don't dare raise your all day long, they spend on the rules. And you discover that these people, including yourself, are so insane about the simplest, tiniest thing that you're between laughing and crying and being exhausted, And you know you're gonna break the rules because everybody breaks the rules because they can't not.
08:31
S0
And this leads me to a little religious moment before I send you out to your crazy sun Sunday evening and Monday.
08:43
S0
I'll give you the answer and I'm gonna tell you now and you're probably gonna forget it, but I'm gonna give you the answer. Okay? This could be relevant. Everybody goes to heaven.
08:56
S0
Do you guys understand that I know what I'm talking about? Just pretend that I do for a moment. I mean, because I start to lose authority when I talk about moles or heaven.
09:08
S0
Assume that I know what I'm talking about. Everybody goes to heaven. Okay? Okay. You guys with me? Yeah. Come on, brothers and sisters. Everybody goes to heaven. Everybody goes to heaven. Okay. Everybody goes to heaven. You're on probation when you get there, but they don't tell you that. I'm telling you that now. So don't you forget this for nothing. You go to heaven right away when you die. You then have three months. If you rearrange anything there in those three months, anything. If you move a vase from one side of the dresser to the other, if you rearrange which drawer your socks are in, if you rearrange the hangers in the closet, if you move the bed to the other side of the room, if you rearrange anything for three months, you go directly to hell for eternity.
10:13
S0
Anything.
10:15
S0
You guys ready for heaven yet? No. I don't think so. How much of your life is spending spent rearranging things? Be it schedules or things.
10:33
S0
You you please do that down here because when you get up there, the cost is almost higher than it is here.
10:41
S0
It's pretty high here too.
10:46
S0
So all but two of you, please make sure to go on your scavenger hunts.
10:52
S0
Meet some people you've never met before. By the way, don't go to houses where you know somebody. Go to houses where you don't know somebody. Meet some new folks.
11:02
S0
Take care of each other, especially we got a bunch of people from out of town here. Spend some time with other people and go out and play and come back with some stories, please.
11:15
S0
Come back from stories of what you learned and what you played with and what you came up with and how you danced with the people out there.
11:25
S0
And get a lot of rest, please, tonight, tomorrow. 09:00, Tuesday, get plenty of rest. Please take care of yourselves and take care of each other. On Tuesday, we will play around a little bit more with stimulus response. We'll play around a little bit, remind me please, with abandonment and rejection and then we'll get into language in the afternoon.
11:55
S3
Should we bring our lunch?
11:56
S0
No. You're going to go out for lunch. You will have a specific linguistic assignment over lunch. Thanks for asking.
12:06
S0
Thanks very much for your play in the last two days. Please reduce stimuli day tomorrow
12:17
S0
if at all possible. And all you have to do to reduce your stimuli tomorrow is when the waiter comes up to the table and says, may I take your order? You take the sixth, seventh, or eighth, or tenth rather than the first. And that will reduce your stimuli and tend to wake up the waiter or waitress. It will. It'll wake them up. And then if the next time they ask you something, you give your first, it'll give them a start. And then if you give your nineteenth, they'll be meditating and they'll miss it. You'll have to repeat it. How
12:59
S0
much fun could you have not at the expense of anyone? I want you to find out tomorrow.
13:09
S0
Bye. Stand
13:18
S0
up, please, if you didn't do your scavenger hunt.
13:23
S0
Okay? Thanks. There's a tendency to think that if you miss an opportunity, all you missed is the opportunity.
13:36
S0
Notice that temptation? Mhmm. Yeah. Yeah. That's not all you missed.
13:45
S0
You're not used to looking or listening or feeling for natural consequences.
13:54
S0
Do you guys who did your scavenger hunt know that they missed more than just the scavenger hunt?
13:58
S4
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
14:01
S0
What you got to tell us?
14:03
S1
People are starved for play. Oh,
14:07
S0
aren't they ready for play?
14:09
S1
People are starved for play. And I had a lot of resistance to it, and it was fun.
14:16
S1
I mean, I really thought this is just this is the last thing I wanna do. And I was only out of bed for about three hours yesterday. But I went out and I did the scavenger hunt, and I got everything, and it was a trip.
14:28
S0
Yeah. Met some people, didn't you?
14:30
S1
I met a lot of people. Yeah. And people were just so open to it. I mean, it was just like it was amazing.
14:39
S4
Have you
14:39
S0
ever met anybody who doesn't just wanna help you if they possibly get a chance? They all wanna help you. Yeah.
14:47
S0
You just have to shift the invitation a little bit.
14:50
S5
Well, they wouldn't have in their door, and they wouldn't talk to me through their door. You
14:55
S0
have to carry around little devices for that to get in their door.
15:01
S0
Now you say thanks very much. Bye. Have fun. Enjoy your day. Yeah. Oh, she's gotta talk. Run back.
15:12
S6
But I met a man. I had to go to I was working yesterday, so I went to offices in my office complex. And I did meet a man who initially, he was really enjoying it. He was the boss. And then when I got in the office and everybody was having fun and I was trying to convince him to clip their toenails, It made him really uncomfortable. And he came out and he said, this is an office. We have to work here. You know? And I said, okay. You know, that's fine. And but I saw how everybody deflated because they'd been really enjoying themselves and gotten away from inputting apartment complex data or something. And think everybody
15:51
S0
role here
15:52
S2
Yeah.
15:53
S0
Is to make certain that everyone is sufficiently deflated that they come back tomorrow.
15:59
S0
Because otherwise, they might go out and do something else. That's true. Yuck.
16:04
S6
One little lady though had the courage to go, thanks Mhmm. On my way out the door. Yeah. That was fun. That's cool.
16:12
S0
We had someone do a scavenger hunt in Shattuck, and she went to a woman's house. The woman was in her late seventies and just lit up and said, do you need a safety pin? I went on a scavenger hunt when I was just a young kid, and one of the items that I couldn't get was a safety pin. And I have carried one in my purse ever since just in case anyone ever came looking for a safety pin. Wow. And if you're really nasty and awful at that point, you say, yeah. It's on the list.
16:51
S0
No. You say that's not on the list, but I need this and this and this. And they go, okay. And she's still got her safety pin probably. But she's closer to getting rid of it because somebody came to her house on a scavenger hunt. Who else? What'd you notice?
17:10
S1
The next person who shares is an IRS agent.
17:14
S4
Well, I enjoyed it.
17:18
S0
Jerry, you could Just say knock knock IRS?
17:21
S4
No. No. It's like it's like kick the door in. You could not have picked something harder for me to do than that scavenger hunt. I was agonizing all night, all evening, and I made up a lot of excuses that I think I'm coming I think I have cancer. I have the flu. I wish I had cancer. I hope I don't wake up. I mean, I went through all of this, but through the whole thing, just said, I'm just gonna do it. I'm it's it's gonna get done. In the car, I'm ready. I felt like I was going into combat. And, you know, it was very, very painful. It was it was traumatic. It really was.
18:02
S0
No. I get it.
18:03
S4
And I think about even when I was a child, you know, I never wanted to do that. I'm on the board of a concert association, and I can't even ask people to buy tickets, you know, season tickets and stuff. And Just wait. It was wonderful. It really was.
18:21
S0
This is the beginning of the end of that problem.
18:24
S4
It it is. It was something I had to do. If I didn't do this, I'd have been ruined. I knew that.
18:29
S0
It was
18:29
S4
life and death. It really was.
18:31
S0
Yeah. What fun. Well Yeah. Good. And the people kinda had fun with you, didn't they?
18:36
S4
Yeah. They did. They were laughing and like
18:38
S0
Look at him.
18:38
S4
Weird, you know, and stuff like that.
18:40
S0
Is there had fun? But I'm saying, what what here is threatening? Nothing. Hi. Here I am. And you robbed them of that opportunity, but you didn't yesterday. They
18:53
S4
enjoyed it too.
18:54
S0
Yeah. Of course, they did.
18:56
S4
They got to talk to old people in the parking lot in the in the condo complex and
19:02
S0
you know? Tell It was wonderful.
19:03
S3
Tell him about the older gentleman, the first Dory knocked out Oh, yeah. Who was so resistant.
19:08
S4
Yeah. The first gentleman that opened the door.
19:11
S0
Perfect first one. Right? It's perfect. And he he was great.
19:15
S4
You know, a retired gentleman, his eyes were dull eyes. His eyes were this big. They were enormous. They're looking at us, and you could tell. Was like, uh-oh. Just seems like No. He doesn't want anything. He doesn't want anything to do with us.
19:26
S0
And It's like you caught a possum.
19:28
S4
Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. And
19:33
S4
he began talking with us, and he began from this dour look. He had a smile, and he was giggling. And he said, all you want is, like, one piece of macaroni? One piece? And he gave it to us, and he was laughing. I I bet you he has to be still thinking about this today. Like, what's gonna happen? Who's gonna come today to the door? Thought about it.
19:56
S0
I bet he went shopping for macaroni after you guys laughed just in case. It was wonderful.
20:00
S4
It really was. I just, you know
20:03
S0
Give me, though.
20:04
S4
Take it off.
20:05
S0
Give me the dour one.
20:08
S1
Yeah.
20:09
S0
Don't give me the in between one because the in between one doesn't know about the extremes. The dower one knows this is no fun. And they can spring over to the other side of it. And they go like this, but the in between one is gonna stay in between.
20:27
S3
Right. And it was boring with those.
20:29
S0
Okay. You need some spaghetti. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I can get you some spaghetti.
20:36
S4
Nobody reacted, like, just to get rid of you, here's the thing and get out of my face.
20:41
S0
No. That's
20:41
S4
New York. Guy. No. That's what we've got a toenail clipping. This guy actually Sure. Went into the bathroom and he clipped his toenail and he gave it to us. I really did. We got every eye on it. I I couldn't believe that one. Yeah. I mean Yeah.
20:58
S0
I can't believe you. What fun.
21:01
S4
Yeah.
21:01
S0
Didn't it?
21:01
S3
It was. Was great fun. Mhmm.
21:03
S0
Yeah. What
21:06
S0
if you could make any request that you wanted to of anybody, anytime,
21:14
S0
and along with that, had no preference for how they responded?
21:22
S0
Because that's the key to being able to make any request of anybody, anytime. If you have a preference for how they respond, that starts to limit what you can ask and who you can ask it of.
21:36
S0
You have to be able to ask anything of anybody anytime and then listen to what the heck they say. It
21:45
S0
gets to be too much fun. We're getting to that this afternoon linguistically what the relevance of this is, and it's incredibly relevant. You've got to be able to do it. If you can't do that, you can't possibly learn about yourself.
22:05
S0
It can't be done
22:09
S0
because you learn about yourself from other people. You don't learn about yourself from yourself. You learn about other people from yourself. You learn about yourself from other people,
22:20
S0
and you gotta be able to stretch out there a certain amount. Congratulations. Nice. Don't worry. We got more.
22:32
S0
The idea is to get you right out on the edge, out on the edge where you go, I don't know what's gonna I don't I don't. And the edge moves out.
22:43
S0
And as the edge moves out, it gives you a much larger area to play in,
22:50
S0
much larger area to play in. And pretty soon, you can do things that you thought were impossible, and that increases and increases and increases. And
23:02
S0
you gotta keep sorting for and searching for and finding those ones that you go, I don't know if I could survive and do that. I don't know.
23:12
S0
Okay. I wonder if I could. I wonder what I would how many missed opportunities you figure? Excuse me? How many missed opportunities by not having the nerve to say, hey, hey, you. Yeah. A lot. Millions. Yeah. Our new book is called Unknown Zone.
23:40
S1
Flirting with life's changes.
23:42
S0
Flirting with life's changes. And what we're talking about is we're talking about flirting, not necessarily a romantic flirting, but flirting with anything that's outside the zone of what you know.
23:56
S0
Getting out there into the unknown and then bringing something back and then going back out again and then bringing something back and that's where the energy of life happens.
24:10
S0
Is and when as a kid, you did that all the time. That's why you had so much energy and you flirted with anything. You gotta flirt. If you're sitting there next to him,
24:23
S0
you gotta you gotta kinda go like this. Remember this when you were just a young kid? Oh. Yep. And remember what it did in your body?
24:34
S7
Yeah.
24:35
S0
Oh, I touched her.
24:39
S0
And then you work your way up to to maybe
24:49
S0
you gotta know you gotta not know if you're gonna get away with it or not. Yeah. If you know you're gonna get away with it, what's the fun? There's no fun. You gotta have no clue if you're gonna get a or is she gonna smack me? Is she gonna whatever? And the same with your boss and the same with everybody you work with and the same with your kids. Am I gonna get away with this one here? Am I gonna I gotta let's let's figure out what we don't know about the relationship, and let's explore that and find out where that sits. That'll keep their interest.
25:29
S0
Remember the feeling in your body?
25:31
S7
Yeah.
25:32
S0
There it is. Yes. What if you could do that with somebody you'd been married to for thirty years?
25:39
S0
That'd be a kick or what? Well, you can.
25:44
S0
You can do it when the waiter or waitress comes up to the table. You can do it with anybody, anytime.
25:51
S0
Flirt.
25:54
S0
What else? What'd you notice on your day on?
25:58
S5
I went with my kids because I was telling them about this assignment and they got really excited and said, we wanna go. We wanna go. And I said, well, I want you to go, but I need we we have to talk about what you're gonna watch for.
26:11
S0
So You guys listening to her words? No. Watch her patterns.
26:18
S5
I wanted to
26:19
S0
She's a master of saying the words that entrap you so that you don't watch the patterns. Watch the patterns. She's very, very, very good at this.
26:30
S0
Very important.
26:33
S5
We talked about eye movements, which they loved, and they loved watching carefully when we went to the doors and played with all these people. And they laughed, and we all laughed and we had a great time. And we went at night. Can you imagine
26:56
S0
why they don't teach this in the schools?
27:00
S0
Would kids have some fun with this or what?
27:04
S5
They said it was like trick or treating for them to go at night and go from door to door and ask for things, but that it was even more fun because the things we were asking for really cracked them up to see the way people responded. And and every house that we would leave or we also went to Toys R Us because we couldn't find anybody chewing gum, and they watched everybody in Toys R Us and found people chewing gum. And it was great.
27:31
S0
I bet they didn't look at the toys as much.
27:33
S5
Oh, they could've they didn't look they didn't ask for anything. They didn't they they rode a few bicycles, and my older son wanted to ride the wheelchair through the store. And I said, well, did anybody look at you differently? What was it like for you? And he kinda talked all about what it was like to be in a wheelchair through the store playing around, and we had a great time. And they really enjoyed it a lot more than trick or treating. And we would laugh after every house about how they responded and what happened and what it was like for each of us.
28:04
S0
You had a good time. Toys R Us scares me. What
28:09
S0
if it burned down? What does that much plastic do under heat? Pollutes. It's a scary thing to me. Not only does it pollute, but what would the mound be like once it cooled just a little bit? This would be one hunk of plastic, wouldn't it? You could probably just put something underneath it and raise it and use it as a roof.
28:39
S0
Any of you been in Toys R Us recently? It's just all plastic. Everything's plastic. Unbelievable. And, yes, it would pollute. Oh my god. Would it pollute?
28:54
S0
K. What else? What'd you notice?
28:56
S7
The the treasure part of the the going to the scavenger hunt, I've done enough times. That didn't seem like a stretch. It was wonderful. The stretch for me was was was being with Brian And
29:10
S0
I know.
29:14
S7
And and we had to wait half an hour for dinner. And and so Brian decides he's gonna approach some people with books. And I didn't even know what this was about. I said, take which you just step outside with me. So here we are standing outside, and Brian starts approaching this, but we got turned down two or three times. Finally, here's this young man, 17, 18 years old, and he's looking at us like we're from another planet or something, and Brian starts in about this book. And I'm thinking, oh, this is intrusive. You know, we got no business doing this. I'm like, I was really uncomfortable. And the next thing you know, this kid is you know? And he's starting to share his life with us. And he says, I I I wanna go to to to junior college and eventually get into medical school, and I'm starting to think about some of these things. The next thing you know, he calls his brother over and borrows $10 from him so he can buy this book, And we had the best time with this kid. And later, he comes into the restaurant and looks over at our table and and, you know, like, wow. You guys have touched something in my life, and and I I care about something here, and I I really thinking about that. It was really neat. And that was my stretch. The the the the other part wasn't so bad. This, I didn't even know why he was dragging me out there.
30:42
S0
You know? And watch the conversations in your head. We shouldn't be doing this. We shouldn't be. What if you just looked at the kid and go, what's going on with him? Rather than what's going on with me. Yeah. And fun to watch it, isn't it?
31:00
S7
Oh, yeah. And I wouldn't have picked this kid to be the one either. You know? That's another conversation.
31:07
S0
Back when I was a broker, you get a list of names. People start eliminating who they're gonna call right away. They haven't even talked to anybody. They don't know. They go, oh, this person wouldn't buy. It's it's it's ink on paper. How do they know? And one of the most important things you gotta do is always call the people whose last names are hard to pronounce because nobody calls them. So you make sure you call those. Yeah. This wouldn't have been the kid.
31:39
S7
No. Not in a million years.
31:41
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No. Think he's still influenced by this? Yes. The ripples go all the way out For sure. Forever.
31:47
S7
Yeah. Yeah.
31:48
S0
And then how did you do when you tried to do a presentation next?
31:52
S7
We haven't got to that yet.
31:55
S0
It's only Tuesday.
31:56
S7
Yeah.
31:59
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I you said something here a few minutes ago, and it really hit me. What what I fear is is is I'm I'm trying to control situations.
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One thing you fear.
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S1
Okay.
32:11
S0
Okay. Because there are probably a lot. Yeah. But one. Okay.
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A a big one for me. When when I'm gonna intrude on someone like that, the the whole rejection or the
32:21
S0
What does intrude mean, Dick? Well What does intrude mean?
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Well, I suppose it means connecting. I
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suppose it also along with that means getting out of your own little world for a moment. Hold it. Hold it. Hold it. I want you to watch the shift here. This isn't about you worrying about intruding on them.
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This is about you worrying about getting out of your own little world. And if you did that to somebody, immediately, the universe takes note and gives permission to somebody to do that to you.
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Dick gets one. And if you do that to a 100 people, a really weird thing is gonna start to happen. People are gonna start to walk up to you and talk to you like they know you. People are gonna walk up and kinda nudge you and say, boy, that looks like a good bagel you're eating there. And you're gonna go,
33:39
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yeah.
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So I the the guys is that you're doing you're not intruding on them for their sake.
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It's for my sake.
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In illusion, everything is something like the opposite of what it appears to be.
33:56
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Yeah. Yeah. Well
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then He's got his own little world in there. Get it? Mhmm. He really does.
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S7
Yeah. Yeah. The other thing you said that that really got to me was this idea of of the expectation, and and if am I really free to have whatever happens happens here and not and and not be upset by it. And I think that's the other fear in this for me. Or
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to be upset by it. Remember, an upset is an emotion. An emotion washes through and cleans everything out. I want you to get upset by it. You need to be upset a lot.
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Currently, you're upset a lot, but you put your auditory over the top and claim that you're not. No. This boat is not rocking.
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No.
34:53
S7
It it's rocking.
34:55
S0
Yeah. It's rocking. It's been rocking for years.
34:58
S7
Yes.
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How cute is he like this? Really cute, isn't he? Yes. He came in odd looking. Do you remember?
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I just say, what's the do you remember? He came in odd looking. He doesn't look odd anymore. He
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doesn't look yeah. Now he looks like a man who's probably somewhat intellectual who you might learn something from. Do you know that you looked odd? No. You guys know it. Yes? He looked odd. You went, oh, we have an odd one in the course. They did. And if you had ever talked to him on the phone and not met him, you know it's not an odd one. Because on the phone, he sounds just like the nicest human being you've ever met. Incredible. And then you see him in person, and he's put together this odd look which keeps everybody away. They go, oh, not everybody. There are some really blocked odd ones who might still come up to you, which then justifies you not wanting people to come up to you. Well, you're not odd anymore. You guys understand what I'm saying here. Right? Because you saw him coming in. He's not odd anymore. He can now relate to anybody, and they can relate to you. And the moment you want to, the moment you're ready to, you can go right back into that world that you've got in there and be in there. It doesn't leave. But you can also then come out here and be out here. He has a lot to offer to a lot of people. And he's letting he has let his stuff get in the way. I'm not saying he hasn't given to people, but think of how many more he could give to if he weren't so odd.
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S7
I hate being odd.
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S0
Every day.
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S0
But no more. No more. You're not out anymore. He's a guy sitting here. And one of the things that happens then is you can see all of him. Notice where your attention goes. Yeah. Yeah. You can see all of him. Yeah. When you first came in, you could only see this.
37:30
S0
Here's Nick.
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This is Debutante Ball here. This is his coming out.
37:43
S0
Welcome. Feels good. Fun people aren't there, aren't there? And they want to play. They do. And some of them might even want to yell at you and that's the highest expression that they can currently rise to. And you say, thanks.
38:04
S0
What the heck? Maybe they're hard of hearing.
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S0
Congratulations.
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S0
What else?
38:22
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The scavenger hunt was as delightful and wonderful as I remember scavenger hunts. It's been a while since I've been on one. But the stretch for me was allowing myself to go with a whole bunch of people. I was invited to go with some people, to go to this house and meet those people and do it together. And I thought, well, I think I'll just stay home and enjoy the day and be by myself and take a walk and do my scavenger hunt, I do a lot of by myself. But I had such a great day and we just after the scavenger hunt, we just hung out for hours and then we got home and we hung out and we ate and then we hung out at the table and then we just hung out all day.
39:13
S0
You must have been dry by the end of the day.
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S2
And we didn't do particular anything but just have a good time being together. And for me, that was a big breakthrough because I'm usually uncomfortable with people because I either have to do something or be somebody or defend myself or have stuff going on.
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S2
And it was really
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S2
exhilarating just to discover how much I just could hang up.
39:45
S0
So you you have to find the spot that's that way for you. For her, a scavenger hunt is nothing. She can do a scavenger hunt. There's no problem. You go up to the door. You knock on it. You ask them for something. You go to the next one. You have you do it.
40:01
S0
For her, hanging out with some people without any particular agenda. Uh-oh. What are we gonna do? What are we gonna get done? I I see people like this with their kids. You know, somebody in Houston says, I'd really like you to meet my wife. I said that I don't care about your wife. Bring your kids. He said, oh, yeah. I'll bring my kids, and we'll we'll bring some cards or something.
40:31
S0
What do we need the cards for? Just bring the kids. Well, we have to have something to do. Do you have a TV set? He's gonna come over and bring the kids, and we're gonna watch TV. What is this? You know this goes on. Right? I have to have something to do. We have to. No. There's nothing to do. We have the longest days.
40:58
S0
They just go on forever. We almost never have anything to do. And if we do have something to do, we typically get it done by six or seven in the morning, starting at about two, one or two. And then it's done, and then there's the day. Nothing to do again. What else? What'd you notice?
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I had the best time I've ever had.
41:24
S0
Lose the Post it note, please?
41:26
S8
Oh, sure.
41:26
S0
I'm sitting up here listening to your Post it note.
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S8
Don't listen.
41:32
S0
That's one possible solution.
41:37
S8
But I will
41:37
S0
Did you hear it?
41:39
S8
Yeah. I did.
41:40
S0
For the last fifteen minutes? No. Listen to your Post it note.
41:46
S8
Okay.
41:51
S0
I cannot hear it, but can you hear it?
41:54
S8
I've begun to hear things.
41:56
S0
Okay. Go ahead.
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S0
What?
42:02
S0
I
42:05
S8
had fun yesterday like I've never had fun before.
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S8
It was just great fun. I I was at work all day, so I took people like you did, and we did the scavenger hunt. But the thing that we did
42:20
S0
Still making noise with her Post it note. Mhmm.
42:23
S8
And the significance of that is?
42:28
S0
Everything.
42:29
S8
Okay. Good. And so
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S0
Nothing less than everything. I dare you to not make noise with your Post it note for ten minutes.
42:44
S8
I don't wanna accept the dare, but I'll do it.
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S0
And not by getting rid of it. No. Keep it around.
42:52
S8
Sitting right there. K.
43:00
S0
Okay. So you play to work?
43:03
S8
Yeah. People could only talk to me if they did pictures for an hour and a half.
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S8
You know, I just made a sign that says, you know, you got something to say, make a picture. And then
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S0
Take me back.
43:21
S8
I had no problems. They solved them all, and they had fun. And then we had a significant meeting to decide something about whether we're gonna let somebody go. The only thing we did was sing in the meeting. They could only come in and sing. And if they couldn't sing, they couldn't stay in the meeting.
43:41
S0
Makes sense to me. Yeah. Was Think of IBM.
43:47
S0
No. I don't think
43:48
S8
that would work there.
43:49
S0
Oh, yes. It would.
43:52
S8
I don't know. And then I hadn't gotten a toenail.
43:55
S0
You would think of if you hired somebody at IBM based on their voice, what you needed for your work group. We need a base. We
44:06
S8
That'd be fun. So this morning at 07:30, I knocked on somebody's door who I thought might just be getting out of the
44:12
S2
shower to see if I
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could get their toenail.