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307 utterances · click to jump
00:05
S0
And please make sure that you meet everyone. Go.
00:09
S1
Come. You
00:11
S0
and your
00:12
S1
pie. Okay?
00:13
S0
Oh, good.
00:14
S1
I'm holding. I'm
00:15
S0
Is this more or less fun than if you had your eyes open? More. Why haven't you done a first date like this?
00:26
S0
Or a cocktail. Close your eyes. I didn't say open them yet. She wants to end her fun prematurely. She's not the first woman I've met who wants to do that.
00:39
S0
Make sure you meet everybody. You got another minute and a half. Okay.
00:48
S0
Open your eyes, please.
01:01
S0
Open your eyes, please. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's
01:08
S0
not an accident that he's busy trying to find a seat that he forgets to open his eyes when I tell him to open his eyes. It's just a metaphor for standard operating procedure in life.
01:20
S0
You get so busy trying to do something that you don't pay attention.
01:23
S2
Is that me?
01:25
S0
Nothing. So
01:29
S0
what'd you notice? Lots. Fun. Fun. Look around at the people.
01:35
S3
Great. It's lighter in here. Yeah.
01:38
S2
Vision is very different now. I really appreciate it.
01:46
S0
What's the longest you've ever walked without your eyes open?
01:51
S1
Right there. Right there. That was nice. Yeah.
01:53
S0
Gotta do this. Yeah. You've gotta find your intended spouse and then take a long walk through the woods with your eyes closed.
02:05
S0
One of you. And the other one helping them a little bit, but then just helping them verbally, helping them physically,
02:15
S0
playing like this.
02:18
S2
Yeah. When I was going to come down to the course, was thinking,
02:26
S2
I'm going to do a lot of the things that they do, but one thing I'm not going to do is walk around with my eyes closed. So I'm glad we did that first.
02:36
S0
Well, it might not be the only time we do it.
02:38
S2
I'm sure it won't,
02:39
S4
but it
02:39
S0
it's Are you sure?
02:40
S2
Yeah. But it it kinda broke the ice
02:44
S0
Yeah. Thanks.
02:45
S2
In that in that fear thing.
02:47
S0
Okay. How many of you opened your eyes? Raise your hand high, please. Look at this. Yeah, like once so you're good, right? Okay.
03:01
S0
Okay. I'm going to give you always simple instructions. Suggest that to get the most out of the course, you either follow instructions or watch your relationship to instructions, either one.
03:11
S5
Yeah. I found it to be lots of fun, very physically disorienting. Somebody turning me around and telling me to go in different directions, and I didn't know if I was I had no idea where in the room I was and just reaching to see what was there. It was interesting, but it's very physically disorienting.
03:31
S0
So let's say a bat flies in somewhere. You know how they navigate. Right?
03:39
S0
So they they send out something and then they get something back.
03:47
S0
And by what they get back, how quickly they get it back, and I'm not sure how many parameters there are. Any of you know much about this? I don't know how many parameters they determine it by.
03:59
S6
Well, the little I know about it. If they have a if there's a fan in front of them, they could time to go between to go through the fan. But once it hits a certain speed, they know they can't make it. So they know their, they know their limitations, which shows intellect.
04:21
S0
Push it. Pardon me. Intellect? How do you have to attribute that?
04:29
S0
Gosh. You're so nasty to bats.
04:34
S0
Do you want me to explain to you how that happens? When the report that comes back because the thing is moving fast enough, the report that comes back reports it as solid. And if it's solid, they don't try and go through it. And if it's going slowly enough, the report is that it isn't solid, and then they can go through it. It's fairly simple. It's just a question of the size of the waves that come back and how they play with it. Please don't suppose intellect if we don't need intellect to solve the problem because otherwise the bat is gonna have to sit there upside down all day long thinking.
05:22
S0
Don't want this for those poor little bats. So the bat sends out a wave and something comes back and it gets a gets a report on its environment. If it's a butterfly, it gets a particular kind of report based on shape or whatever it is. All of this is stimulus response based. Sends it out, it gets it back. What do you think you do? You do the same thing. You look out, you listen,
05:57
S0
you send it out and you get it back. You speak to someone. That's sending it out and then you find out what they send back. That's orienting you intellectually. The other is orienting you physically. You sit in the room here and you constantly waste at least 60% of your sensory data trying to locate yourself in the room. Do you get that? I mean, it's here is enough of a location, isn't it? Why do I need to go, okay. She's there, and I'm here. Okay. Ceiling's still there, and my feet are on the floor, and he's over there and I'm here and this is okay.
06:45
S0
This is the creation of psychological diseases, isn't it? In other words, what if your body just let you know where you are?
06:56
S0
Oh, that'd be the pits because your body can't tell the difference between Walmart and Kmart. I mean, you'd lose all the important things in life.
07:07
S0
That's our definition of intellect, being able to tell the difference between Walmart and Kmart. I don't think bats can do it. So they get to live a blessed life without much shopping.
07:24
S0
So you wander around and you send out stimuli and you get back whatever you get back. If you want to know what enlightenment is like, there's nothing sent out and there's nothing that comes back and there's no place to orient
07:40
S0
because it's already done. It's already complete, it's already finished. So you don't have to do all of that stuff. I mean, do you operate? Let's say it's five minutes before you're going on the big TV show that is your opportunity to talk to all the Super Bowl viewers for a minute about your philosophy in life. Okay? Five minutes till that comes on. What you're going to do? Five minutes. Anybody nervous? Anybody have a problem with this? Forget about theory, really pretend like it is and there you are and the camera's on and they're going there, the clock's counting down and ticking down.
08:26
S0
This is the pressure you're under all the time. This is why you assess constantly where you are when in fact you don't need to. I have you close your eyes and who had more fun with their eyes closed than they suspect they would have had with them open? Raise your hand.
08:43
S0
Everybody. And how many of you opened your eyes before you were told to? And anybody in the way of their own fun? And how many of you have thought about next time you go out to a restaurant for a meal closing your eyes the whole time?
09:05
S0
Well, I wouldn't want to have more fun there.
09:10
S0
Do you understand that you might be subtly in your own way from time to time? Just a little bit for some kind of mock security. Now your eyes give you accurate reports on everything, right?
09:27
S0
Probably the most accurate you're gonna get. Anything else? What'd you notice? You had something? Or
09:34
S2
As many people, I probably kept meeting some of the same people over and over again, but then I noticed that at times when I would meet a new pair of hands, I would know that it was a new person that I hadn't met before before I heard their voice. And that was interesting. So I just kinda concentrated on the hands after a while.
09:56
S2
And I noticed that when I meet people, I'm so much in the voice, in the face that I never notice their hands.
10:05
S0
What if there was no performance anxiety at all? It would be nice. Wouldn't that be interesting? Yeah. I mean, ever with anybody. Yeah. Why would you bother to have it? Stymies me a little bit.
10:22
S0
Pair up, please.
10:29
S0
Okay. Now that you've met each other, let's get personal. So pick an a and a b, please.
10:39
S0
A's go first. A's, I want you to share your deepest, most intimate problem with b's. I want you to let them know all the specifics. If it's of a sexual nature, all the better.
10:56
S0
Let it rip and tell them absolutely things that you've never told anybody in your life before. And if you not have any of those? Let it all rip so that at the end of it, you're done.
11:11
S0
You got about two minutes to do it. Let everything out that there is. Don't hide anything, and use only the word blah, please. That's it. Just one word. No conjunctions. No verbs. Just the word blah, and let them know everything about the problem. You got about two minutes, we'll tell you when two minutes is up. Then the other person use the same word and solve it.
11:45
S0
Okay? Let it rip. Make sure it's a severe traumatic problem, please. Go.
11:57
S0
Please see the blah exercise in the exercise book.
12:03
S0
Look around. Other
12:07
S0
way now, please. The person who just did the solving. Pick some word. I don't care what word it is, and tell them your biggest, deepest, darkest problem. Go.
12:23
S3
Take the words out. The problem disappears.
12:27
S0
Problem's gone pretty fast, isn't it? Except for some of you. If the word if the problem kinda disappeared, raise your hand, please. Look around. What else? What'd you notice?
12:39
S5
I noticed when he was solving my problem that he stopped before I wanted him to because I liked what he was doing and then he just turned away and stopped. I wanted him to keep doing some work as he was enjoying it.
12:52
S1
I noticed that when I was describing my problem, I used only my voice. And then when my problem was solved, my partner started using his body and his hands and it added a whole new dimension and I just assumed that I couldn't do that myself.
13:09
S0
So we have three people in here that you can view slightly differently.
13:15
S0
We have this guy here. Stand up, please.
13:20
S0
And where's Brian? Come on. Not seeing him. And that guy there are several people. Who else?
13:30
S0
So these are people who have done the IC already. So you're gonna see more variation in their patterns generally.
13:39
S0
And we have an old friend, Judy, who studied with us for years, hasn't now recently. But anybody just watch her patterns?
13:52
S0
Where were you?
13:55
S0
Anybody?
13:58
S0
They're almost impossible to find because they aren't there because she's all over the place. It's not an accident. You know this?
14:10
S0
K. So watch those four.
14:12
S5
I'm not entirely clear what we're watching for.
14:16
S0
You will be. Okay. I promise. Mhmm. By the end of the day, you'll be quite clear. By the end of tomorrow, you'll be entirely clear. And
14:26
S0
for right now, it would be sufficient to
14:31
S0
find out thanks.
14:36
S0
Picture them Tuesday.
14:39
S0
They're still standing.
14:44
S0
How much of your attention does she get
14:49
S0
versus some of the other people? If you remember to pay attention, how much attention does she require? And the answer is that you can't help. You don't know what's coming next because it it keeps changing and moving around and shifting all over the place. You will become incredibly interesting to people after this course,
15:17
S0
when you're not talking, but also when you're talking.
15:22
S0
Because there's nothing they'd rather do than be around something that they aren't sure exactly how it's gonna turn out, and they'll pay attention. So that's one way to notice right off the bat is that nobody can tell me what her patterns were because it's almost impossible to see any patterns there. She's worked at this pretty aggressively for a number of years. Another comment. Yeah.
15:48
S2
I find when you're speaking that if my original thought of what I was gonna say doesn't stay in my mind because I wanna stay with what's going on in the moment. But I think what I was going to say before was
16:02
S0
That's that's the I'm gonna do it to It's a really ugly part of the present.
16:12
S0
It really is. The the present is totally orienting in one way and totally disorienting in another, which is you can't carry anything to it. Right.
16:24
S0
I'm gonna give you all mass quantities of disorientation this week. I promise. When she was problem solving for me, the first reaction I
16:36
S2
had was to try to put it into words.
16:40
S2
And then I realized that that was just what I'm doing that I shouldn't be doing. And I tried to just look at her and just try to get it. That was difficult but helpful.
16:52
S0
Okay. Pretty convoluted. Do you get it?
16:58
S0
The more complicated you can make everything, the more important your thinking becomes, doesn't it?
17:05
S1
And then you use your
17:06
S0
thinking to hold it all together and then to add just another little piece if you can find it. And this is why I did that.
17:15
S0
See, the neat thing about the bat is the bat seldom alters its flight radically to avoid something that isn't there.
17:27
S0
That's how we know it doesn't have an intellect.
17:31
S0
Because how often do you alter your flight radically to avoid something that isn't there or to quickly arrive at something that isn't there? And I understand what you're saying in your head. You're saying what other motivation for flying would there be? How
17:52
S0
much of what you do in your life is an attempt to avoid something that isn't there or get to something that isn't there?
17:59
S3
Let's do it.
18:01
S0
What if you could recoup all of that time that you spend doing those two?
18:08
S0
I don't want anything less.
18:12
S0
Do you? So let's play around just a little bit with what is there versus what isn't there.
18:25
S0
So you guys can have the truth. Good luck.
18:30
S0
I don't know what it is. The criteria that I use primarily in order to speak to you is what would be useful for you. So if you ask a question, I'm attempting to answer something that would be useful for you. I don't care about your opinion of whether or not it's useful because your opinion of whether or not it's useful got you to having to ask the question in the first place which ought to be about the most humiliating thing imaginable. So when I answer your question and you get confusion, what is the likelihood that I know that you got confusion from my answer?
19:10
S0
It's fairly likely. Right? Right. I mean I mean, you guys are gonna discover this week that I'm watching and that I'm trained in this. I'm pretty good at it.
19:20
S1
What is
19:21
S0
the likelihood that you're gonna get confusion if I don't want you to? Slim. Slim. I needed her not to leave our interaction confused,
19:34
S0
and I needed him to leave our interaction confused. So what if you could trust without having any correlation to the truth?
19:48
S0
So you wanna trust the truth, but I'm telling you there's no truth.
19:54
S0
Let's start just kind of trusting everything. K?
20:00
S7
So you
20:00
S0
just You guys wanna trust one thing at a time and build some sort of database which will give you some sort of insanity we call illusion.
20:09
S0
And you wanna use your own thinking to determine what you should trust. In other words, you start out with a presupposition that you will trust your own thinking. Mhmm. That's a silly thing, isn't it?
20:25
S0
Now let's imagine that your thinking is for entertainment.
20:31
S0
Gonna trust entertainment?
20:35
S0
You notice how those two don't even really fit in the same sentence? Entertainment
20:43
S0
generally has something to do with broadening the playing field where trust or truth in particular has something to do with narrowing it. No. This is the truth.
20:58
S0
Re repeat after me. This is
21:01
S1
This is
21:02
S0
the entertainment.
21:04
S1
The entertainment.
21:09
S0
You would never say it, would you? No. How many entertainments are there? Quite a few. Quite a few. Even a few that you haven't found yet. No. How many of them are hiding behind the truth? A lot of them, aren't they?
21:28
S0
What if there isn't the truth?
21:34
S0
Pair up, please. Different pairs.
21:42
S0
So pick an a and a b. Bs go first.
21:51
S0
Who's a and who's b?
21:53
S6
I'm b.
21:53
S0
You're b. You go first. Okay. Okay. You look over at him. Mhmm. And I want you to tell him some things that you see over here. But I want you to have these be bat reports.
22:05
S1
Bat bat.
22:06
S0
We call them grounded assessments. In other words, I want you to say things the 12 jurors would agree with no matter what. He's a nice guy doesn't count.
22:21
S0
Do a few for him.
22:23
S6
You're wearing glasses. Your hair is silver. Your beard is silver. You have a pen in your upper left hand pocket. You have two ears. You have a nose.
22:38
S0
Exciting, ain't it? This is great stuff. I'm glad we're getting this on tape.
22:45
S6
You're smiling.
22:47
S0
Oh, I thought that was a candid grimace that showed a a definite tendency toward violence over here.
22:59
S0
I thought he was kinda laughing at you.
23:06
S6
You have a shirt on? You have a pair of pants?
23:09
S0
Yeah.
23:13
S6
You're wearing a wristwatch?
23:16
S2
You have
23:16
S0
sneakers on? This is what I want you to do. For two or three minutes, I want you to play in the realm of what 12 jurors would agree with. Go.
23:32
S0
Please see the grounded assessments exercise in your booklet.
23:39
S0
Guys? You
23:43
S0
guys are really good at squeezing all the fun out of things, aren't you? What if this was fun? What if you could have fun with this
23:54
S1
instead of just kind of reporting and this is the way
23:58
S0
it is? And you're you're finding a certain amount of energy in it. Right?
24:05
S0
What if you brought some to it rather than just trying to find it?
24:12
S0
Notice the energy level in the room? Mhmm. It's like in the pits. How many of you in school had teachers do this about you? Make assessments like this that were grounded in fact? I'd be willing to bet that they almost never did.
24:33
S0
I'd be willing to vet bet that in a week, almost none of your conversation is grounded like this. Pipe a little energy into it. Would you please pretend like you're enjoying this?
24:49
S0
Pretend like you're deriving some fun from it. Go.
24:57
S0
A bit more energy in the room. Thank you.
25:01
S0
Now the same person, and I want you to look over and forget about the jurors and judge them. I want you to plain out judgments. Give me an example. Who was which way were you going?
25:15
S7
I was talking.
25:16
S0
Okay. Go. Give us some judgments.
25:18
S7
I look like a nice guy.
25:22
S7
I'm like a
25:26
S7
little uneasy in this situation, but basically a nice guy who wants to improve himself. He wouldn't be here.
25:35
S0
I think Get personal, would you?
25:38
S7
Person look like you don't do many sit ups.
25:43
S0
Didn't take telling him twice, did it?
25:53
S0
He hires somebody to do a sit up for him. Not me. A personal trainee.
26:03
S7
You should hire me.
26:11
S7
Nice. Sure, some nice jeans. She was kinda old, scruffy, and
26:20
S7
I don't know. That's all.
26:21
S0
A little bit more, please. Okay. Try a little more animation to it and try not using the same word repeatedly. Nice. We're off that exercise where you use the same word.
26:37
S0
Try and tell them a few things that challenge you.
26:42
S7
You don't know what you mean?
26:44
S0
Something you wouldn't say.
26:48
S0
Look at him.
26:52
S1
This is a little bit alive. I wish you guys could see him.
27:01
S0
Yeah. They're there. He's been stepping past those.
27:11
S0
Alright.
27:14
S0
Here we go.
27:19
S7
Alright. You look a little bit nervous here.
27:26
S7
I would estimate that that that your life is pretty much controlled, that that you do things,
27:36
S7
that you don't get get out of your comfort zone too much throughout your life, although you are here.
27:46
S7
Wish I had your silver gray hair. It's
27:51
S7
I'm running out here.
27:55
S0
Try, I really love you a lot.
27:57
S7
I really love you a lot.
27:59
S0
Now convince us.
28:02
S7
I really love you a lot.
28:18
S0
Okay. Now I want the non jur ungrounded, let it rip judgment judgment all over the place. Go.
28:30
S0
This is why you live full of shit.
28:37
S0
How many of the grounded ones, meaning the 12 juror ones, did you make? What was the ratio of those versus the made up ones last week?
28:49
S0
How much of your time is spent on the judgments, and how much of your time is spent on the reports?
28:57
S0
Oh, I did. A lot on the judgments. Right?
29:02
S0
And your role in life is to have find someone, anyone who will treat one of your judgments like it's true.
29:13
S0
Because then you can know that they're lower on the totem pole than you.
29:19
S0
Now if they do it eight or 10 times, then they're a sucker and they don't count anymore. You you wash your hands of them. But if you can find somebody who does it occasionally, then you go, yeah. Now it's worth it. Now I have to come up with some new material. Find out if they'll go for it. So you're make you're creating an illusion with these ungrounded ones.
29:43
S0
You're reporting on what's there with the other ones that you share in common with all the other people in the Roman, the 12 jurors. But now with these, you're building your own world.
29:57
S0
But my suspicion is that you wander around in the world and don't know which one of these two you're doing.
30:05
S0
No more. How many of you have gotten divorced because of an ungrounded assessment? Allegedly. Look around. You do, don't you? You shouldn't have done that. Yeah. It's an ungrounded assessment.
30:24
S0
Who says what they should do? I do.
30:29
S0
Of course. And pretty soon you don't even need the other person to have the conversation.
30:35
S5
It's hard to verbalize the judgment even though it goes on in your
30:38
S7
head all the time.
30:40
S0
It is? Raise your hand if you had a hard time verbalizing your judgment even though it goes on in your head all the time. Okay. And raise your hand if you had an easy time verbalizing the judgment.
30:54
S0
Okay. So we're split somewhere near half. Okay.
30:59
S0
Just you may as well find out how many people you're speaking for. It's about half and half on that.
31:06
S0
So you guys get to pick who you want for lunch, somebody who has an easy time verbalizing the judgments or has a hard time verbalizing the judgments. Pick based on your own insecurity, please. The opposite of your natural tendency.
31:21
S0
Okay? Thanks.
31:24
S4
I thought Dave did a
31:26
S1
really good job with the judgment. Oh, a good job.
31:33
S0
Oh, Dave. Way to go.
31:36
S4
He told told a story.
31:39
S0
Good one? Yes. Alright. A good story.
31:44
S4
It it made me have a good feeling inside my body.
31:47
S1
Oh. It
31:48
S4
was it was interesting to see that.
31:51
S0
Interesting, good, or bad?
31:53
S1
Neutral. Neutral.
31:54
S0
No. No. No. It's good. He means it is good. Yeah. Interesting is way up on his criteria. Interesting is above good on his criteria.
32:05
S1
How do you know?
32:07
S0
It's my job.
32:10
S1
So teach me.
32:11
S0
I
32:11
S1
am.
32:14
S1
The problem I don't know now.
32:16
S0
You will when you do.
32:18
S1
So I wanna know now.
32:20
S0
I know.
32:24
S8
You just have to develop some
32:26
S1
more observational skills. That's all.
32:31
S1
Would you help me discover what I need to discover to know what you know about Indiana? Yes. Would you do it now? I am. What am I missing?
32:42
S0
All kinds of things. So
32:47
S6
Are you having fun?
32:48
S1
I'm curious.
32:52
S1
I don't know if
32:53
S0
And the first itinerary when curiosity shows up there is to kill it off. Okay. You wanna get the answer Right. And then you won't be curious anymore. Right. You'll have the answer instead. Right. I would rather keep the curiosity alive for as long as we can. I wanna feed that curiosity on a very healthy diet, and I'm gonna feed it all week. I would much rather have you be curious how in the world I would know that than have me tell you something which would get in your way later. I will show you all week. Okay. I can hear the conversations in your head.
33:38
S0
I can hear the conversations in everyone's head.
33:41
S1
Put it on auto voice. You wouldn't like it. Yeah. I would.
33:45
S0
You're not trusting me.
33:49
S1
That's my conversation?
33:51
S0
No. I say you wouldn't like it, and you say, yes. I would.
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S1
Then you said I'm not trusting you.
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Because you just disagreed with me.
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S0
Who knows more about whether you would like it, you or me? You think you do.
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S1
I think I do.
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S0
Let go of that. I know more about all of it than you do for the sake of this workshop. You know one way I know that? I have your money. True. I
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like your curiosity. When you're curious, you're wonderful. You're incredible. You're open, and you're playing, and you're like this, and you're kind of like on the edge of your chair. And when you know, you sit a little bit like this and you're having no fun.
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S1
It's a lawyer in me. You legally, you get trained that way. So I don't. That's great. That's why I'm here because you've got what I don't have.
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S0
Okay. You're gonna pick this up over time, and you're gonna earn it yourself. Okay. If I give it to you unearned right now, it's gonna be of no benefit to you. I want you to be able to use it everywhere. What I would tell you about this specifically in this case
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S1
Mhmm.
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S0
Would not be of great use to you. And I'll tell you anyway.
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S1
No. Hang on. I miscommunicated to you.
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S0
Isn't this fun, Molly? What Molly's laughing at is that she has done enough of our courses that she has some idea who you're talking to, which is not something that you have.
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S1
Right. Obviously.
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S0
You will. And when you do,
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S0
slowly process the embarrassment that is built up over time. And I'm not saying you should already.
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S0
Watch your patterns. They're great. It was beautiful. She goes like this.
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S0
In every interaction with me, you're gonna become more alive.
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S1
Great.
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S0
And you already are. Judged by that. When I see him, I'm now gonna tell you because it's okay now to tell you, I don't know why, but it is. When I see him say the word good, there's much less energy flowing in him than when he says interesting. Okay. And in you, there's less energy when he says good than interesting because you are a barometer that reads this.
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So you don't necessarily tell just from him. You can tell from yourself. You can tell by having him say good, and you're looking at her, and then having him say interesting, and you're looking at her because it'll all show up in her.
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S0
But you get it. You need to have a much more refined and we're trying to clean some of the good out of here, Sevec. We're trying to clean some of the good out of here that gets in the way of these natural abilities that you all have everywhere all the time. Right. You love going out there and having them lie to you, and then you discover that they lied and they were all wrong. You love it. Otherwise, you just know that they were lying at the time because you do Mhmm. Always.
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K? Okay. Yeah. Interesting. Very.
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S0
See, if I were to arouse the boy, I just started using the word interesting in some sentences, and Patrick's as good as gone.
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S4
What I was what I'm saying is when I was listening to his judgments
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for me and how he has to bind up everything in order to get his point across. Mhmm. Mhmm. You notice that? How he has to run the same pattern he did earlier, which is eyes defocused and down into his right. Notice in your own body what happens when he does this. Mhmm. You get bound up. You get tightened up. You get all of this stuff that is not his intent to have you do that,
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S0
but he can't help it.
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S0
So now let's check out your bodies. Tell us what you wanna tell us, but let's have their bodies get more limber and light and free while you're telling them. You make sure that that happens.
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S0
So you can do a handstand here,
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S0
but can you do a much more subtle trick?
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S4
Do I have to say the same thing?
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S0
I don't care what you say. It's not about the words.
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S0
And part of the problem here is you think it's about the words.
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S4
Yes, yes I do.
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S0
Confirmation from you does a lot for me.
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S2
Self confirmation.
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S0
Okay. I was wrong again. Selfish confirmation.
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S0
No. Put your attention on them. Yeah. That that works.
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S4
Yeah.
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S0
Get it out here.
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S2
Totally.
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S4
What I was going what I was saying was that when I when he was listening to his judgment, I
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S0
Notice any difference?
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S1
Mhmm. Mhmm. K.
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S4
I wasn't able well, you know, because they were pretty they were pretty wild and out there. So I didn't, you know, didn't take them personally. And because of that, it was, you know, more light and a lot more jovial. And through that, you can I I I found that if you even if someone that you think is talking to you is really talking to you and judging you, you have to believe them? It's just them saying it.
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S0
So I want you to take it all deeply personally, everything that they say all the time.
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S4
And that was my second part of
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S0
my question. No matter what it is, I want you to take it in so deeply and so personally that it rocks your world.
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S0
Because why would you bother to have an interaction with a human being if it was if its intent wasn't to rock your world? Steer clear of them if that's not your intent.
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S0
And if it rock I mean, you you pay to go to an amusement park to have your world rocked. You can do it for free.
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S0
This isn't about combating what they say. Right. Want you to let it in and have it stir everything up. You have a bunch of opinions about yourself. True? Mhmm. You all do. You have a lot of opinions about yourself. Do a quick check, would
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S1
you, and find out how many of
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them are grounded and how many of them are ungrounded? Not number, but percentage.
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S0
How many grounded assessments do you make about yourself in relation to how many ungrounded assessments you make about yourself?
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Carry Give me an idea of ratio.
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S3
Why would we want our our world to be rocked? Because mine's been rocked for twenty seven years. I'm sick of it
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S0
being What
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S0
you're calling rocked is unrocked. This is a story you've told for twenty seven years that's absolutely fiction.
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S0
Doesn't seem like fiction, does it?
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S3
It feels very real to me.
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S0
I know. You're gonna lose it this week. What are your percentages, please? Give me a guess.
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S1
99.
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S0
99% ungrounded. Okay. 80% ungrounded. K.
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S1
75 to 80% ungrounded.
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S0
Do you know all it takes to believe the ungrounded? All you have to do is say it twice. If it comes into your attention, you've said it over a 100 times. And all you have to do is say it twice for you to believe that it's true. These aren't true, you guys. The stuff you made up about yourself, it's not true.
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S0
It's just stuff you made up. It's stuff you made up so that you could have a wonderful life. Right?
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S0
If you could make it up, why would you make it up like that?
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S0
You you get up in the mirror and you go, oh my god. I'm more handsome than I was yesterday or more beautiful. Don't you say that? And smart? Off the scale.