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321 utterances · click to jump
00:02
S0
There's no point.
00:05
S0
There's none.
00:08
S0
Now what? What if you don't have anything to cover up? What if you don't have anything to protect? What if there is no point? Now what? Now what? Fernando
00:23
S0
Flores set up a game. Fernando Flores is a linguist. We're gonna get into my version of some of his stuff on Tuesday. Judy's studied with him and done some work with him in the past. He set up a game called a world game. Did you ever play that one?
00:41
S0
A world game. And you're all different people playing different countries and different companies and all this stuff. I blew the game to pieces.
00:53
S0
Ever see the game blown to pieces? I blew it to pieces. And he had put me or they had put me in the role of somebody who doesn't matter. In other words, I was some kind of a something for Canada.
01:08
S0
That's the definition of doesn't matter.
01:12
S0
And so I looked at the game and I went, this is gonna go on for maybe two, two and a half hours. What am I gonna do to make my dent in that two and a half hours? Everybody else is playing within rules that weren't even part of the game.
01:27
S0
And I said, there are no rules in this game. They've just made up this game. My job is to make sure that on this radio station that they had made up that Canada gets mentioned more often than anybody else.
01:45
S0
And it ripped the whole game to smithereens because I would spend any amount of money. I would do anything to get us mentioned on the radio station, and that became the dominant part of the game. You get the fun of it. And they're still trying to illustrate some particular point with the game, And meanwhile, they can't stop talking about Canada. And they try and punish Canada by devaluing their money. And but they're still talking about Canada.
02:22
S0
And they called a premature end to the game because it wasn't working because they couldn't talk about anything but Canada.
02:33
S0
What's the game here, you guys? You guys operate like you know what it is. I don't mean in this room. I mean here. What's the game? For most of you, it's some some version of covering your butt or getting along or making it through or that's not enough. That's not even close to enough. That doesn't even scratch the surface.
03:07
S0
So when I started selling real estate limited partnerships, you gotta make up the game. You gotta make up the game with your 12 year old. It was the second time I had ever worn a suit in my life. The first time was my brother's wedding. And I go in to interview for the job to sell real estate limited partnerships. I don't know what I'm talking about. I don't know what I'm doing. I have no clue. I get the job.
03:35
S0
I go up to the number one salesperson in the company
03:39
S0
and I say, watch my tracks.
03:44
S0
And I go home. I figure I've done a day's work.
03:51
S0
I did. I went right home. I had done my day's work. I had set up a game. It took me over a month and a half to pass him
04:00
S0
and I never looked back and he watched my tracks.
04:10
S0
And he had this huge drawer full of leads and this huge background of clients, and I had nothing.
04:21
S0
Nothing at all. And I want and there weren't any more leads coming in. I mean, he had them. They were in his drawer. It was locked.
04:31
S0
We would get one or two leads a week and it would be distributed to whoever the guy happened to distribute it to.
04:40
S0
So I thought, how do I go about doing this?
04:44
S0
Well,
04:47
S0
first thing I want to do is I want to make sure I don't get hurt too badly. So I started calling psychologists because I figured if they said no, they would at least be a little bit nice to me. So I started cold calling psychologists And I discovered that there are two kinds of psychologists. They're the kind that drive around in big fancy cars and make a lot of money and pretend to help people. And then they're the kind that drive around in VW bugs and vans don't have any money and really try and help people.
05:23
S0
Neither one of them ever invested with me, but I I cut my teeth without them being too nasty.
05:32
S0
And then I made up a little game, which is that I had someone go around from business to business to virtually every business in the city of Milwaukee over the period of a year distributing a flyer on this thing we're offering with a little tag that I had put on the top that said, who says there's no such thing as a free lunch? And we would have 40 to 80 people attend the seminar to hear about this per week.
06:02
S0
Where are my leads?
06:04
S0
I've got stacks and stacks and stacks of leads of people who have come, had a free lunch. The same person who delivered these catered the lunches so they cost us almost nothing.
06:18
S0
And I have stacks and stacks and stacks of leads, hardly had enough time to call them.
06:24
S0
A game needed to be made up. There was no way to do it the way the other guy had done it, which is sit there and wait for the leads to come in. I could have done that. I'd I'd I never would have caught him.
06:41
S0
What game needs to be made up here to have you get the most out of this course? What game needs to be made up everywhere? What game needs to be made up with your 12 year olds? You don't even have to tell them you're playing a game.
06:55
S0
I mean, I talked to my brother not a bunch of months ago, really. My brother's a hard drive and
07:03
S0
gonna be successful. Gonna teach elementary school for a bunch of years and then go back and get his MBA and be on the board of a large company and then, I mean, just all kinds of stuff.
07:14
S0
And he's trying to press his daughters who are at that 18, 19, 20, 21 year old thing. He's trying to press them. One of them, he wants to be a doctor. Now these daughters just want to do whatever they want to do. How successful you're going to be at that point in time? You've had years with them. You've had eighteen years. How's what if you haven't set it up in eighteen years, are you going to be able to set it up now? No. You're just going to aggravate them.
07:43
S0
Meanwhile, he's divorced, and he's not got much of a life of his own, but he's gonna have his kids really get a good life.
07:53
S0
And I said, leave him alone. He's very smart.
07:57
S0
When he's smart. I said, leave him alone. Go on dates. Get a life. Leave him alone and live a life, please. My goodness. What is this? He said, you know, you're right. I know you're right. The girls were away at school. He said, I'm gonna call him and tell him I'm gonna leave him alone.
08:31
S0
If smart people say that, imagine what dumb people say.
08:37
S0
Wouldn't that sort of defeat the purpose?
08:42
S0
Hello. I'm still leaving you alone.
08:46
S0
No. I'm really leaving you alone. You know, his phone bills would go up
08:51
S0
because he has to make sure that they're alone and left alone. Now I'm not talking to you about medical school.
09:03
S0
You can do whatever you want. I'm just leaving you alone.
09:09
S0
Pairs, please.
09:13
S0
It's gonna look from time to time like we're not working on the big issues. We're working on the big issues. And the only way they can be worked on.
09:25
S0
If I worked on what you consider the big issues to be, you would leave here with some really, really good ideas, which you would not be able to implement at all.
09:40
S0
We're gonna start a ball rolling here. The ball that we're gonna start rolling is gonna roll out into all aspects of your life. Next Sunday,
09:52
S0
your IC course begins because you're going out into the world to play with this.
10:00
S0
So
10:03
S1
please refer to that's a fact exercise in your booklet.
10:10
S0
She does something a little peculiar. It shouldn't be hard for her. She's from California.
10:16
S0
Do something a little odd. Whatever you want. Just sitting there. Do something
10:20
S1
weird. Do
10:23
S2
something. I am. She's doing alright.
10:26
S0
Do something. Okay. You tell her why she did it and follow-up the why she did it with and that's a fact. You
10:36
S3
did it because you were temporarily insane, and that's a fact.
10:40
S0
Now why do your see, he finishes every phrase with a question mark. He needs to learn not to.
10:50
S0
It's not about there's some right answer here. You know he does this. He finishes every phrase with a question mark. And he's not only questioning what he said, he's questioning his existence.
11:03
S0
You should question your existence. He should demand his existence. So say it like you mean that it's a fact. Do something weird. Something different weird. You
11:19
S3
learned that as a kid, and that's a fact.
11:23
S0
You get it? He's saying it's not quite a fact? So work on being able to say that it's a fact. Like, it's a fact. That's it. You take it on like that's true.
11:34
S2
Okay.
11:36
S0
Try it again.
11:39
S3
You like to make faces at me. That's a fact.
11:44
S0
Got it? That's the I mean, you guys love to tell stories. Right? And then forget that you're telling stories and think they're true. Here's a chance for you to tell stories. I want you to find out really how truly deep this makes your relationship with this other person.
12:02
S0
Okay. Well, then I mean, you tell me this isn't what you do.
12:07
S0
You're sitting at the table with somebody new, and they do something. Oh, she's trying to get a little perspective on me.
12:17
S0
Oh, she's kinda locked up, and she's this is gonna be a tough one. Look at the posture. Mhmm.
12:28
S2
K.
12:31
S0
Don't you make up stories? Don't you think they're true? All of those are made up based on philosophical principles that you've got jammed in there whose only intent is to keep you sufficiently small so that you aren't at risk.
12:47
S0
We're gonna get you at risk.
12:51
S0
What the heck? So she does something, you do about 10 of them. Do one at a time. She does something, you tell her exactly why she did it. You'll be totally convinced that's why she did it. Like, you're the expert in this. You're the boss. You know exactly what's going on and that's why you did it and that's a fact.
13:13
S0
You throw out anything that you have that says it's not the case and you go, yes.
13:23
S0
And only believe whatever he told you. Okay. Go.
13:36
S0
What'd you notice? It was easy.
13:41
S0
One way, not the other. She doesn't like being told how things are, but she doesn't mind telling everybody how things are.
13:52
S0
It goes
13:55
S0
from God
13:59
S0
to Carol
14:02
S0
to you.
14:09
S0
What'd you notice?
14:11
S2
Yeah. I noticed that it was interesting and fun to, watch him do his little antics and then come up
14:19
S4
with something into what come up
14:21
S2
with a story, you know, right right off the top of my head and what he is actually doing.
14:27
S0
Okay. Did you then believe his story?
14:31
S2
When he came back to me, I yeah. It was like I could see that that was the marble in my mouth and that's why I was doing that with my tongue.
14:40
S0
You understand that he didn't take an inferior role in this.
14:46
S0
He didn't take the role of and that's the truth.
14:51
S0
He played superior while he waited for the other guy to come up with something
14:58
S0
and then passed it through his own filters and went, okay. That's acceptable.
15:09
S0
The game there is to take it on like it's absolutely true just because he says so. This is what you do in life. You know?
15:21
S0
All you're doing is looking for somebody to be in relationship with who will take what you say as the truth so that you can get bored and tired of them and look for somebody else. What the heck? What else?
15:36
S2
Could I ask one question?
15:37
S0
Yeah. Your whole report there reeked of in your superior. Mhmm. Did you do it with Pat?
15:44
S2
Yes.
15:44
S0
Are you superior to him?
15:47
S2
Probably in my head, I think so. Okay.
15:51
S0
Anybody else in the room you're superior to?
15:56
S2
Probably. Yes.
15:58
S0
Yeah. Might this ever get in your way?
16:00
S2
Excuse me? Might this ever get in my way? Yes. I could easily see that getting in my way.
16:06
S0
Okay.
16:09
S0
So we'll attack that one a little bit. Thank you. Not overtly.
16:14
S5
Thank you.
16:14
S0
We'll attack it underneath. Other question? He has another question. Oh, I thought you had a second question.
16:21
S2
No. It's just that.
16:22
S0
Okay. Tom?
16:24
S2
I didn't have a question. Just Mhmm.
16:26
S0
Tom? I
16:28
S6
was just I found myself trying to be entertaining.
16:32
S0
How were you at it?
16:36
S2
I thought I was doing a pretty good job. Why
16:39
S0
did you try and find why did you try and be entertaining?
16:46
S2
I don't know.
16:49
S0
Make up a story.
16:55
S2
Okay. This isn't I was trying to, entertain her because she's attractive young lady.
17:03
S0
So you can make all different kinds of stories up. Can't you? Mhmm. Let's try it. Let's try a a a therapy story.
17:14
S0
Got one?
17:15
S2
My my mother did this to me.
17:18
S0
Because my mother let me know that the only way that I could possibly get her attention because she was very busy doing nothing was to be amusing myself, and she would watch reruns on TV, and I would have to be more amusing than the TV. So since then, anytime I'm in contact with a woman,
17:41
S0
I I have to be amusing. Okay. Here's the what do you tell your boss story?
17:49
S2
I was late because the traffic was really
17:52
S0
No. Why is he trying to be amusing? What does he try and why does he tell his boss he was trying to be amusing? He was hoping for that So you tell different stories. This is the reinforcement of schizophrenia.
18:07
S0
You have over a 100 personalities per second.
18:13
S0
Those freaks that they find 20 of them.
18:17
S0
You know? I mean, they get on the talk shows and stuff. That was big for a while. I don't know that it's big anymore. It was big for a while. They aren't even interesting because they only found 20.
18:29
S0
You have over a 100 per second
18:33
S0
battling, and you wonder why you run out of energy, battling for the forefront.
18:42
S0
He's amusing because he's just kind of a funny guy, and he can't help it. Aren't you?
18:54
S0
All he has to do is take about 1,600 of his typical stories in life that really aren't funny. And if he tells a couple of them to you, you'll be rolling on the floor because they are funny viewed by you. Do you know he's an odd guy?
19:10
S0
Do you know he's an odd guy?
19:14
S0
Because Warner used to say everybody got to act.
19:20
S0
So he tried to be amusing.
19:21
S2
Yes.
19:23
S0
And did you come up with some facts?
19:27
S2
Yes.
19:29
S0
Okay. I'm I'm we're gonna need two mics. I you guys need to tell me some facts, please. I need some facts.
19:40
S0
Take the mic if you're gonna
19:42
S5
I I wanted to talk about our interaction here. I I I I this one is Thomas through, but I have something
19:48
S0
Are you sure you want to?
19:49
S2
Yes. Okay.
19:51
S0
So that's a fact. What else?
19:54
S0
We'll we'll get you.
19:56
S2
The sun is shining.
19:58
S0
Get to my quick get it to somebody else who's gonna do it. You'll still get your chance to
20:03
S2
The sun is shining. Okay.
20:06
S2
It's a fact that I'm good at sticking my foot in my mouth. Okay.
20:12
S0
The water is wet.
20:15
S2
We're sitting in this room.
20:21
S0
My hair is brown. So tell me some facts that your parents told you or taught you. Facts about life.
20:33
S2
You need to be very responsible. Okay. You need to treat elders, kindly and stand up when they enter the room. You always need a plan. You shouldn't lie.
20:49
S0
Did they lie to you?
20:51
S2
Yeah.
20:52
S0
K.
20:53
S3
Always be fair.
20:59
S2
Sex is bad.
21:04
S2
Respect your parents always.
21:07
S5
A gentleman always holds the door for a lady.
21:11
S0
Well, you can get yourself in trouble, can't you nowadays?
21:17
S2
Don't beat up people.
21:20
S2
Don't embarrass us.
21:23
S2
Don't hold your breath.
21:30
S2
Whatever's worth doing is worth doing well.
21:34
S0
Okay. Okay. What were you gonna say about your interaction?
21:37
S5
Well, it it was interesting because by
21:42
S5
agreeing to hear what was being said and when I heard it was a fact and said yes, I I lost my defensiveness in the sense that that, well, I I guess I have to agree. And it got more and more true. And and I began to say, he knows more about me than I do about myself. And and there were several things that were uncomfortable, but true. And and and then we got to a point where we're just sitting looking at each other, and and it was just this very nice rapport going on as if we by the time we've been through this, our defenses were down, and and we were just enjoying one another. And we could have done that for a long time and it was was it was just a very pleasant thing. And and so I guess I was thinking, isn't this interesting how often I don't want to hear that? And and yet when I agree to hear it, there's a lot of truth to it and we reversed roles and did it and and and again the same kind of thing going on and where I thought it was going to be really superficial, it was one of the best things we've done for me. I mean, was it was very useful.
22:55
S0
Okay. You took it deeper than most people in the room did. Most people in the room went, okay, that's that's what you say. You exercise surrender
23:07
S5
Yeah.
23:08
S0
Which is
23:12
S0
the best way I know of to win and have him win too.
23:19
S0
You let it go through. You know, she didn't get stuck on it.
23:22
S5
Yeah.
23:24
S0
And what happens when you let it go through is that he probably starts letting it go through too. Uh-huh. And then the two of you were just sitting there.
23:32
S5
Yeah.
23:34
S0
That's going on all the time underneath all this junk that goes on. How many of you thought in your head that they're wrong when they explained to you exactly why you did it?
23:48
S0
Look her. But you evaluated whether they were right or wrong.
23:54
S0
What if you didn't have to evaluate whether they were right or wrong? What if you could just take it as right because they were saying it?
24:05
S0
Period.
24:10
S1
It's all just a story anyway.
24:11
S0
It's all just a story anyway, and it's a story which works beautifully to keep people apart.
24:22
S0
What if they matter more than it matters? Wouldn't that be weird?
24:30
S0
How often with your 12 year old do you try and make your point when in fact it goes against his point and you end up arguing about points?
24:44
S1
Yeah. Are you saying to to my
24:48
S0
summary of
24:49
S1
this whole thing is that you're saying we should be observers of life, observers of our feelings and our own self and not know too much for for sure because then we have to defend what we know. We have to be what we think is a fact.
25:04
S0
You always have to defend what you know. What I'm suggesting is if you currently don't have anything you know or don't have much you know or willing to keel over and flop down and show your underbelly, it's time for you to become a dominant member of the tribe.
25:26
S0
If instead of that, you're somebody who knows and you let everybody else know exactly what it is, you need to learn to do the other. You need to have the full range of behaviors available to you and the full range of thoughts available to you. Thus, you've increased the size of your database tremendously,
25:51
S0
and you will, given a situation, be able to trust yourself to come up with whatever is appropriate rather than some programmed response, which will have everything turn out the way it did last time, the way it did last time, the way it did last time, and pretty soon you got no life left. Why would you bother to be around? So I'm not trying to tell you there's some way to do it other than to be able to do the broad spectrum. She needs to be able to sit here and listen like she's never ever heard any of this before, and it doesn't make sense. She doesn't know what to do with it, and she can't fathom how it could
26:31
S0
what? This this tears at the roots of everything I've ever learned, and I don't understand it.
26:41
S0
While some of you who do that automatically need to go, yep.
26:47
S0
I got it. I really have it. It's all a posture anyway. Don't you want to switch your posture around? Really? Isn't it time to move your posture around?
27:04
S0
How many of you get more zest out of being right than being wrong? Don't answer fast, please. Because there are a number of people in the room who get much more zest out of being wrong than being right.
27:17
S0
How many of you get more zest out of being right than being wrong? Stand up, please.
27:33
S0
K. Thanks. How many of you get more zest out of being wrong than being right? Stand up, please.
27:45
S0
So we should pair you accordingly.
27:54
S0
Now the question is, what's more zest? More zest. Isn't it? Yeah. You mean more comfortable or more alive? Because the two normally don't go together. Is she a good girl or a bad girl? Yes.
28:14
S0
But I'm talking really. Is she a good girl or a bad girl?
28:17
S2
She's a good girl. Because her
28:18
S0
mother told her not
28:19
S2
to have sex.
28:21
S0
Her mother didn't tell her not to have sex. Her mother told her that sex was bad. She didn't tell her not to have it. She just has lots of bad sex
28:30
S0
to please her mother.
28:43
S0
You guys gotta learn to tell this.
28:49
S0
Is she a good girl or a bad girl?
28:53
S2
Bad. Good. Bad. Bad. Bad.
28:55
S0
She's trying so hard to be bad, isn't she? Yeah. Is she trying to be bad or what? Is he a good guy or a bad guy? Good guy. Any question about it?
29:09
S0
General general operating procedure as he tries to be good. General operating procedure as she tries to be bad. Any doubt? Is she ever successful? No. Absolutely never.
29:27
S0
Is he ever successful?
29:29
S2
Yes. Yeah. Yeah.
29:33
S0
And this sets up a fascinating ratio.
29:42
S0
Trying to be good or trying to be bad?
29:45
S2
Good. Good. Good. You
29:49
S0
think?
29:49
S2
I think bad.
29:50
S0
I think bad. I think she's trying to be bad and failing miserably.
30:01
S0
Does that make any sense?
30:02
S2
Yeah.
30:05
S0
What's she trying to do? Be good. She's trying to be good. Is she failing miserably? Yes. I mean, look at these. Jesus Christ. It wouldn't be good to be this tight, would it?
30:18
S5
What
30:22
S0
would happen? Do you know what your own is, by the way? You know what yours is.
30:32
S2
Trying to be fair.
30:33
S0
A little irony. Right? No. A little sarcasm?
30:36
S2
It's the truth. My story. I think I'm good. I'm serious. I think I'm good.
30:44
S0
Would you stop being serious for a moment and be humorous instead when you got that look on your face?
30:48
S2
Like, you
30:49
S0
just I'm being humorous,
30:50
S2
and I think I'm bad. But how
30:55
S2
I feel is that I'm good. Okay.
31:00
S0
So some are kinda mixed up about it. Right?
31:07
S0
Should do everybody real fast and then I'll then I'll explain to you what to so the solution is simple. Okay? Here's the solution.
31:19
S0
She starts trying to do the wrong thing
31:22
S2
Okay.
31:23
S0
All over the place. She tries to offend her 12 year old.
31:27
S2
This is gonna be hard for
31:29
S0
me. She's already offending her 12 year old by her very existence. She tries to do what she's doing. She starts trying to offend her 12 year old and do everything wrong.
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She admits that that's what she's doing because she's screwing it up over and over again. You can tell that. Right? She's trying to be good and failing. She's trying to be bad and failing. She starts trying to be good.
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And we're gonna get very soon to the delineation of what you really need to do with this,
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which is split your head and your body. Because generally, if you're failing at what you're doing, the two are going different directions. I want both of them to flip and go opposite directions. We're gonna get to that as we get to feelings. Her head
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is working at really doing good. Meanwhile, her body keeps doing the wrong thing.
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Any question? No. She needs to have her body start doing the right thing and her head doing the wrong thing. And watch what happens. The two will come together. Because she set it up like this now, there will be a moment where they pass and are lined up on the way out to here. She may not even make it out to here. She may just come to here and be there.
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So this has her hater body. That's why it's so tight and that's why it's Fred can tell you about your body. She needs she keeps doing the right thing down here and trying to do the wrong thing up here. She's a rebel, isn't she? Yeah. But not really. But not really. She's about as straight laced as they come. I don't care about sexual preference. She's still about as straight laced as they come. She look at her.
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This is like her shoes are shined.
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She can't help it. She's embarrassed by her own goodness trying to be bad.
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So I'm
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like me I'm good, and I try
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to get all this. So it's time for your body to start doing good stuff. No. Bad stuff while your head starts doing good stuff.
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Watch what happens as it settles in. It's like an adjustment, and you watch it settle in. Now did you watch about three emotions pass through right there? Pow. Pow. Pow. As she tried it on.
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I did.
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Yeah. I know.
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She doesn't say, I'm trying to be good. She says, I am good.
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Aren't you? Yes.
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That was really good.
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So she gets to try and be bad.
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What would your life look like if you tried to be bad? Do you have any idea how much of what she does is defined by trying to be good? Everything. Look at her. Everything. Everything. Good according to who? Her. No. Never her. Never her. It's all already set up and does this make any sense?
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No. Thanks.
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Good or bad?
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Good. Good. Good.
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Is
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she succeeding at being good?
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I think she is.
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No. I think
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she's good and good. No. Am I wrong? Terrible.
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Tell us bad.
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Oh, I'm terrible.
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See, she's not even on the scale. She's not even on the scale of what you guys would consider bad. She has done things and lamented about it that you guys would never even notice.
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That's true.
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This is good and good. Good and it's working. Okay?
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Good. Good.
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Good. No doubt about it, is there?
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Jimmy Stewart. Next.
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So are they supposed to be bad and bad?
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Yes. Okay. She's gotta be really bad.
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Look. Because that's where you get the zest. What you've got here is you've got a scale.
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Refer to your booklet, please, in the diagram about good and bad.
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The scale goes all the way from good to bad. Now good and bad are ungrounded assessments. Right?
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Right.
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I mean, they're just all made up. Right. It's junk. So what we're doing is we're giving you a little hint about something in the future. Next week, we do our first ever references course.
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References.
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This is a dichotomy. Right? References sets up five categories, 21 dichotomies that restrict your life that don't have to. And in the references course, I mean, think of, you know, you're a sailor. You you look at the stars. That's your reference. You're a religious person. You look at God. That's your reference. Or Jimmy Swaggart.
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You have your reference. What I'm now talking about and what we get into in the references course is we get into what are your current references? What are you stuck on as a reference? So we free that up and all of a sudden who you thought you were disappears.
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And the beauty of it is we can do it at a very superficial level or we can get down really down to close to who you are with it. Where do you wanna be on the good bad scale? That's the question. She wants to be bad.
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So he let's say here's the middle. She wants to be bad. How bad?
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I didn't know that I wanted to be bad.
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She's already being bad just even by disagreeing with me. Yeah. Can't believe it.
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Okay. I wanna be really bad.
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I think she wants to be just bad enough to get noticed.
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What is she really?
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Somewhere probably around here. So the difference between these two defines her playing field. Uh-huh.
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Because her explanations are here.
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I think I spelled that right. And is that right? Mhmm. Yeah. Took me years to get that one. And her behaviors are here.
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So out of a possible playing field of that size,
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she's got that size. It shrinks the playing field a lot.
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And what happens when the explanations and the behaviors end up at the same point? That playing field becomes entirely irrelevant for you and another whole playing field opens up. And that is what people would call transformation. That is where every point on this plane
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is just one point on the next one.
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And that's what you need to move between. Any movement around on this plane just kind of complicates the whole thing
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until those two come together. What is he? Good or bad? Bad. To be bad, ain't he? Mhmm. Now what is he really? Good. How
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far apart are they? Much further than hers are. He's really trying to be bad. Look at him. Yeah. And he's a whole he's pretty darn good.
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And he's trying to be bad, so he has a a slightly larger or a lot larger playing field.
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Now it's great to have a larger playing field, but it's also a problem to have a larger playing field. Larger playing field means that you have to they're further apart, which means you'd have to do something to bring them closer together. Larger playing field means that he if he judges himself by the people around him and they all have smaller playing fields, then isn't he the one who knows?
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In fact, this whole thing between these two is illusion
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because there is no good and there is no bad. Good and bad exist simultaneously at the same point. There neither one really exists. So you're playing all the time in a playing field that doesn't exist. And you wonder why there's no satisfaction in this.
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It's because you're playing at a game that doesn't exist on a playing field that doesn't exist. And meanwhile, you go, and I gotta do the right thing. I gotta do the good thing. I gotta do the good thing. But then when you do the good thing, who the heck cares?
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Really? Who the heck cares? Who the heck cares that this little wimp from California is trying to be bad?
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See, she couldn't have grabbed my finger and done that. No. Try it. And no. No. She She's shaking. She didn't really shake it as much as she pulled it.
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Indication of a metaphor for other things.
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That's how deeply the trying to be bad happens. It was good for me.
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You look what happens to her if she tries to do that and notice how she can't naturally try and do it. Look. It's not the right thing to do. Her hand stays there. Where? Where it should be if she's good. Come on. What does she have to do? She has to change all kale.
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She's better than you.
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I'll tell you, anything is a metaphor for anything. If you don't know that, you are really missing an off a lot of downright dirty pleasure in your life. You go up to somebody and you shake hands and you go, hi. Woah.
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That was embarrassing. Look at him.
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You miss that opportunity from time to time? Yeah. If you're trying to protect and defend yourself during the handshake. After this course, handshakes will never be the same again.
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I always used to go like this. Hi. You
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gotta do that with the ones that are good, though. You get it? You notice I just did it with two that are good, and then they get a lot of zip from it. If I do it with ones that are bad, I might get a disease or something.
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Yeah. Hard to say something now, ain't it?
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Good or bad? Good. Good. Good. How's she doing at it? Alright. Lousy.
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Good or bad?
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Good. Good. Yes. Good.
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He's trying to be bad. This boy is so trying to be bad, and he's so fail he is trying to be bad. He is a rebel.
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He's trying, but he's not.
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He's failing like crazy. He's like about as
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trying to be bad.