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302 utterances · click to jump
00:00
S0
I can't imagine while I look at her how you could possibly do any better,
00:07
S0
especially now. Yeah.
00:09
S1
The way
00:09
S2
she looks right
00:10
S0
now. But then don't put it on her that she has to keep looking like this. It can't be conditional like that.
00:19
S0
I remember watching a video of Rajneesh getting interviewed.
00:28
S0
There are a few people I have nothing but respect for, but he's one of them. And he's getting interviewed, and this female reporter is saying, you know, I understand that you have sex with all of these followers, and do you love them, and do you and she's getting into all of these questions. This is a TV interview. And he says, well, yes, you know, I do. And I I haven't recently because I'm sick, but if I get well again, they should watch out. You know, it's all just made up. He's just goofing around with them.
00:58
S0
And she's buying it, and she's says, well, do you have some very special woman? And he says, I do. Right
01:10
S0
now, it's you. You
01:15
S0
are the only woman for me. Oh my god. And it gets in. Look at him. That's what a little attention will do. And she gets it. That right now, in his seven plus or minus two, which can fit huge things, she's all there is. Wow. This is what happens. I just made him all there was in my seven plus or minus two. You get the zing? Mhmm.
01:45
S0
So what if you could play around with that? And what if they couldn't abandon you? Now I want you to do the same exercise, only I want you to have a picture of them in your head and maintain the picture whether they're gone or back. And work on maintaining the picture and find out how that influences the whole rest of the system. Go.
02:11
S0
What would happen if you didn't have to live a circumstantial life? In other words, what would happen if circumstances didn't dictate anything? What if you had it all and you could carry it with you all the time anyway without carrying anything at all by having access to it and not having to carry it? Be kinda like a library, wouldn't it? You don't have to dust them, but you get to take them out and use them. Kinda neat. Less dusting. More reading. Find a place, please, where you can dance a little bit to your favorite relationship song.
02:56
S0
Get ready to wear yourselves out. Stay away from the speakers and the video camera, please, and Fred.
03:17
S0
My mother came down and visited about a year ago. My mother and father came down and visited. And we go out to this restaurant, and the waitress is the also the woman who runs the place, and she's kind of effusive and loud and who needs this?
03:36
S0
And my mother, we sit down at the table and she's clearly made herself already a problem. And my mother says, I'm reading a book and you remind me so much of the main character. And the woman says, oh, really? My mother says, yes. She dies in the fifth chapter. The
04:02
S0
woman was quiet the rest of the evening. That was it.
04:09
S0
And I swear she doesn't even know she was gotten.
04:14
S0
She took her up. She took her down. And that was that. It was done.
04:22
S0
So ungrounded assessments. What's a lot? I don't know. Hard to tell.
04:31
S0
So a little bit on language. K? A little bit of clean up the junk time. There are four things you can do when you open your mouth linguistically. Request, promise, assertion, and declaration.
04:51
S0
Please sell this to her.
04:58
S0
Not unpredictably, it's all about the marker. But go ahead. I
05:04
S3
don't know. I've never been much of a salesperson.
05:06
S0
I know.
05:07
S3
I have a really pretty pink marker. Do like to try it?
05:11
S0
One request, one assertion.
05:15
S3
The best smell The best smelling pink marker that I've ever seen.
05:20
S0
Another assertion.
05:21
S3
This marker will make you so happy
05:24
S1
if you color with it.
05:27
S0
Another assertion.
05:30
S0
I'm suspecting it hasn't dawned on some of you yet that everything is sales. Is that true? Everything is sales. It can't be otherwise. Everything is sales, period. People get married so they won't have to sell anymore. And then they find out that marriage means you have to sell all the time.
05:57
S0
And then they get divorced so they don't have to sell all the time anymore.
06:03
S0
Everything is sales. You don't do sales. I understand. But everything is sales. Sell her the marker, please.
06:11
S3
This marker was used by the Jerry Stocking. It's gonna be worth a lot. It's gonna be a collector's item.
06:21
S0
Five assertions, one declaration. I mean, one request. K? No transference of marker. Who wants to try? You got Carol. Here's your new client.
06:38
S0
Look at the posture. Look at the whole thing that goes with it. Woah. Hey,
06:48
S1
Carol. How are you doing today?
06:50
S0
Oh, a request for information on how she's doing. Does she care? No.
06:59
S0
This is not By the way, how many lies did we have here? Well, probably. Yeah. Mostly lies. K? That's the way you build rapport with people is you lie to them. It's worked for you, isn't it?
07:13
S1
I'd really like to share something with you that I really think you would enjoy. This is something that I found.
07:20
S0
That's a declaration.
07:22
S1
This is a a really special pink magic marker Assertion? Found. It's scented. And Another assertion.
07:34
S1
I promise that if you use this with your kids, they're gonna it's gonna make them really want to draw more and create a
07:42
S0
dream. Promise when, in fact, it's an assertion.
07:48
S1
This would really help you and your kids in their creativity with their drawing and with with
07:56
S0
your assertion.
08:01
S1
What I'd like to do is see if you would like to use this for a day and then and tell me how
08:08
S3
you how you
08:09
S0
like it. Period.
08:14
S0
They usually happen somewhere around eleven or twelve.
08:18
S0
Go ahead.
08:26
S1
Can you see anywhere where this would benefit you?
08:28
S0
A a request via Tom Hopkins. I'm kidding you.
08:36
S1
This would really benefit you and your use with that
08:40
S0
Oh, another assertion.
08:42
S1
It brings a lot of color to your sketching.
08:45
S0
Oh, another assertion.
08:47
S1
It actually has a scent.
08:49
S0
Another assertion.
08:53
S1
Okay. Wait a minute.
08:55
S0
Not to kinda push the obvious here, but did either one of them ask the person to buy the marker now?
09:02
S1
Oh, no.
09:04
S0
Now why would you ask that? Why would you ask for what you're really asking when you could ask all kinds of other things and talk about all kinds of other stuff.
09:15
S1
Carol, would you buy this marker from me?
09:19
S0
That's another request. Did
09:23
S0
she ask her to buy the marker?
09:24
S3
Yes. Yes.
09:25
S1
No? No. I didn't.
09:27
S0
No. She asked her if she would. Okay.
09:33
S0
She didn't ask her to buy it. She asked her if she would buy it. Sure. I'd buy it.
09:42
S0
Sure.
09:46
S0
Doesn't get her anywhere, does it?
09:51
S0
So briefly, let me explain these four to you, and then I'll get more in-depth. The purpose of a request and promise is to find out about your relationship with another person. Why you don't make requests is because you don't wanna know about your relationship with another person.
10:15
S0
You don't wanna know where you stand in relation to them, so you don't make a request. I request request that you buy this marker now.
10:26
S4
Why should I buy that marker?
10:28
S0
Don't know.
10:29
S4
What's so good about that marker?
10:31
S0
Don't know.
10:33
S0
I request that you buy this marker now.
10:36
S4
How much is it?
10:37
S0
Don't know. I request that you buy this marker now.
10:42
S4
Do you have a special going on today? Know.
10:48
S4
Tempt me.
10:50
S0
I am.
10:52
S4
What's special about that marker?
10:54
S0
I don't know. I request that you buy this marker now.
10:57
S4
I need to know more about it before I buy it. I don't know. How can you sell something that you don't know anything about?
11:03
S0
I don't know. I request that you buy this marker now. No. Okay. Is she tempted?
11:10
S3
Mhmm. Bless you.
11:13
S0
She's tempted. Has nothing to do with the marker, does it? The marker is just a metaphor. That's it. I know.
11:24
S0
It's not about the junk. It's not about the marker. It's about our relationship. It's about am I allowed to ask something of you?
11:37
S0
Is that permissible in this world? Can I ask something of you that you then can respond to any way that you do or can't I?
11:49
S0
Do I dare find out whether you can go butt off or yes or whatever? You don't ask because you don't wanna find out about the nature of your relationship. It's not about the marker. It's not about the materials you're getting on the scavenger hunt. What kind of spaghetti? Do you want the long spaghetti or do you are you non Italian enough to consider these little things spaghetti too? Or do you consider those pasta?
12:24
S0
And what on and on. Couldn't you go on? Don't you go on.
12:31
S0
She doesn't wanna know what her relationship with anybody is so she doesn't make requests.
12:40
S0
She's not the only one. You have a title so you don't have to make requests. You have a marriage certificate so you don't have to make requests.
12:53
S0
Even in your relationships, you don't make requests often. It would be nice if you would take the garbage out, an assertion. It's not a request. I request that you take the garbage out.
13:10
S0
Then we gotta be open to whether that you take it out or not. You get it? Mhmm. Then she's gotta be able to answer yes, no, or I'll take it out later.
13:23
S0
Or I'll take it out this time if you take it out next time or some version of altering what I've asked. But you don't do this because you don't wanna know what your relationship is. You wanna think that they should already know
13:44
S0
or think that you're okay as a little island here and you don't have to reach out to anybody else. I mean, what the heck? There are billions of people on the planet. Why should I wanna relate to any one of them when I could be all by myself all the time? Or with friends who don't make requests of me and I don't make requests of them so we don't ever find out who stands where.
14:06
S0
And you learned this early on. I request that you go to the dance with me. Now you didn't say that. You thought about inviting her to the dance for a long, long, long time and then you asked one of her friends if maybe it would was possible that maybe she didn't hate you too much. You didn't even make a request to the friend for information.
14:32
S0
Do you think that but what if you did get the nerve and you said I request you go to the dance? Say no. No. Okay.
14:42
S0
You're gonna have what it takes to ask another one? Typically not. Typically, career is over then of making direct requests of somebody. Maybe you got a lot of nerve, and you go to another one and and you say, would would would you maybe like to go to the dance with me?
15:05
S3
Say no.
15:06
S4
No.
15:14
S0
Are you gonna go to the dance?
15:20
S0
Didn't you? Mhmm. Yeah. And he says if he says yes, I'm really in trouble.
15:29
S0
But if he says, no, then I'm in pretty good shape again. And I go, would you you wouldn't want to.
15:37
S0
Hi. And then you're done. Your career is over. It was the big date thing. It was the big dance thing. What if you could ask anything of anybody, anytime? In other words, what if you could find out what your relationship is with another human being anytime?
15:58
S0
The form to do that is I request that you do x by time y? The answer to that is I promise to do or not do x by time y. Get it? That's the standard form. I request that you stand up now.
16:33
S2
Okay. Thank
16:34
S0
you. Promise to stand up? Yeah. That was it. He stood up. That's the fulfillment of the promise. I say thank you, which is a declaration. I am declaring our interaction complete. So now watch. This time, no. I request that you stand up now. No.
16:55
S0
Did you watch what happened?
16:59
S0
He tries to minimize the trauma. This leg comes in. He tries to minimize the trauma of having to say no. It's much easier for him to say yes than it is to say no. He is not free to say no.
17:16
S2
I only say no when I'm back in the corner.
17:19
S0
He's not free to say no.
17:23
S0
Thus, he's a slave to some degree.
17:27
S0
Slaves can't say no. They have to say yes. Yeah. Or they're a dead slave or a beaten slave? What if you could say yes or no equally?
17:43
S2
New experience.
17:44
S0
Mhmm. What would happen is he could open the possibility of him making requests of all kinds of people. He doesn't make requests of all kinds of people because he doesn't want them to make requests of him. If he set up a game where he ran around making requests of people, they might start making requests of him. The whole cycle builds down on itself to limit your possibilities.
18:14
S0
What if he could say yes or no to anything asked of him anytime?
18:21
S0
Shocks. That'd be weird, wouldn't it? I request that you stand up now. No. See this? Get this? And it'll take some practice. Yeah. You need to practice this until you could say either one. Otherwise, you are not a creature of dignity. Dignity is being able to say either one.
18:46
S2
So what you're asking me is to be able to say yes or no with the same feeling.
18:52
S0
With the same everything.
18:53
S2
With emotional.
18:54
S0
With the same pictures, with the same sounds, with the same feeling.
18:58
S2
So don't feel like one is better a better answer than the other.
19:02
S0
This is not calibrating back to zero. If the rule is you have to say yes, unless you're backed into a corner, you have to be backed into a corner a lot. Otherwise, you'd have to do everything that gets asked of you. Yeah. So you start backing yourself into a corner so that you don't have to say yes. So you live a whole lot of your life in a corner Mhmm. To justify saying no. Because nice guys say yes. No. Nice guys say whichever one they wanna say because that means that I can trust you a little bit rather than just interacting with your patterns? What if I could trust you to say yes or no based on watch this. We take a huge leap, your own best interest
19:55
S0
rather than just some weird pattern that you were taught when you were a kid. How many of you got had a good time when your parents asked something of you and you said no?
20:07
S0
You learned early.
20:13
S0
What if you could say either one?
20:17
S0
There's free choice. You don't get to free choice very often. Some of you, the first word on your lips is no. That's the bad ones.
20:31
S0
The good ones are always trying to say yes to everything unless they happen to be in such a corner, and then they'll talk to you about the terrible corner they're in. And they're so sorry. Can you imagine his conversations go like that? They do. They do. They really do. Jesus. Oh, I would really like to do that, but there's no way I can because I just dropped this huge weight on my toe. And and I've just had my appendix taken out by my secretary, and and and my butt is enlarged. It is huge, and I have to go to the bathroom, and and and all my clothes are in the wash.
21:10
S0
But if it weren't for that, I would be able to do it. So he has to have horrible circumstances so that he can remain a nice guy
21:20
S0
and not have to say it.
21:22
S2
I feel very bad about myself.
21:24
S0
Oh, yes. Because even when he's in that kind of corner, he thinks he should still say yes. He works for who? Yep. It doesn't mean he doesn't hide behind something there. There's a guaranteed authority that sits there. There's a line
21:42
S2
that doesn't cross. There's a
21:44
S0
line that doesn't cross. This is his job. This has nothing to do with him, and he says, you are not allowed this deduction.
21:57
S0
It's not him, by the way, that doesn't allow the deduction.
21:59
S2
Not my fault.
22:00
S0
No. It has nothing to do with him. The your congress I can show you where it says this. It has nothing to do with him. It's the professional abdication of responsibility.
22:11
S2
I talk in the third party.
22:12
S0
For short. Third party.
22:15
S2
I thought I'd always talk in the third party. Yeah. I never use the word you, I, we.
22:21
S0
Nope. It's nebulous, the company. Isn't that great? Never. Here you're on your first date with somebody, and you say, we love you.
22:34
S0
We would really like to take you out. No. You can't use the you. No. No. We would really like to
22:40
S2
go out. Anything personal. You didn't you didn't you never used the word. You did this.
22:45
S0
Can you believe it?
22:46
S2
Where you said that
22:47
S0
It's like complete removal from life.
22:49
S2
It is.
22:50
S0
I know. I got it.
22:51
S2
And I'm feeling it more and more.
22:52
S0
That's why that you stand up now. Yeah. No. I felt like it. Body already is standing up before you do anything in your head.
23:06
S1
Oh, okay.
23:07
S2
Oh, I see that now.
23:08
S0
Get it? Yes. Your body starts to stand up and not as blatantly. I mean, some of you may have seen it, some of you may not have. But your body starts to stand up right away. I request that you stand up now.
23:22
S2
No. I don't wanna stand up right now.
23:25
S0
Now what if he added to this so that he could find out about the whole experience? The little thing we did was stimulus and response as a code. What if instead of going with the response like this, he let it sit a little bit? I request that you stand up now.
23:42
S2
No. Not right now.
23:45
S0
I wish you could see what he just did. It went back and forth here between auditorily remembered, auditorily constructed, auditorily remembered so fast in such a little frame as this thing went through possible responses. And then he says, not right now. Right. I mean Just to blunt it for me. So your opinion of me is that I am a pathetic little imbecile who can't hear the word no and survive. Is that true?
24:18
S2
No. I have the trouble hearing the word no.
24:21
S0
But you get my point?
24:22
S2
Yes. I definitely get your point.
24:25
S0
What if I could hear the word no and still survive? I request that you stand up right now. It's important to me. I need you to stand up. I really, really, really need you to stand up to further the workshop.
24:43
S2
No.
24:45
S0
Thank you. You're welcome. And it goes on. You get a feeling in your body and feel it all over? Yeah. Yeah. What if you could watch the responses go out?
25:01
S0
So the way to take care of this is to learn how to make requests of people.
25:08
S2
Because I had some back surgery a few years ago, and what happened was I couldn't move. And I was home all by myself because I wouldn't ask anybody to come over and give me a hand.
25:20
S0
We've all been there.
25:22
S2
Bother anybody.
25:23
S0
Yeah. Yeah. And if somebody had called you and said, I've just had back surgery and I really could use your help, you would have said, don't bug me.
25:34
S0
And you would have loved to have helped them to a point. Right? Yes. Mhmm. Yeah. But you don't think they have the same thing?
25:45
S2
Well, I do help a lot of people. They have
25:47
S0
a I'm sure. Have a
25:48
S2
tendency just to say yes before anybody even asks me.
25:53
S0
Tendency. It's just a pattern.
25:54
S2
It's a pattern.
25:55
S0
It's a wimp thing. Yeah. Yeah. I request that you stand up now.
26:02
S0
No. What would happen if he got to that magical point right in the middle where he could go either this way or that way? It's the only place that free choice exists. That magical little point right in the middle. He's not there yet, but he's a lot closer than he was. Now wait to your fifteenth response.
26:27
S0
But see, he thinks he makes up the response.
26:32
S0
He's not making it up. This gives him the illusion of control. He thinks he's making it up. He's not making it up at all. It's just coming out. Let's find out what the fifteenth response is, and let's consider that to be the accurate one.
26:52
S0
Okay? Okay. I request that you stand up now.
27:00
S2
I don't wanna stand up now.
27:03
S0
I don't care about your wants. I request that you stand up now. No. Thanks. You're welcome. We're okay, aren't we? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it really is okay. What does this mean?
27:18
S2
Okay to say no.
27:19
S0
What does this mean about our future possibilities?
27:22
S2
It's still unlimited.
27:24
S0
Nothing at all. And you've operated as if it means something about it. It you've operated as if it's gonna wound me, and it's gonna crimp our possibilities between the two of us.
27:36
S1
Well, dude.
27:37
S0
What is it? What happens? Just try this on for a moment. What happens when you say yes when you wanted to say no?
27:46
S2
I feel less about myself.
27:48
S0
And hold it against them.
27:51
S4
Resent them. You
27:52
S0
hold it against them. You can't ever do anything for your kids. If your kids want your lunch, your kids either can have your lunch or can't have your lunch,
28:05
S0
but you gotta get up to choice first. You gotta get up to the middle where you could go either way.
28:13
S0
If the general rule is your kids can have your lunch if they want it, you're gonna end up hating your kids.
28:20
S0
If you ever do anything for your kids or for anyone else without getting to that middle point first, you're going to do it without being there. And you're gonna hold it against them, and you're gonna hold it against yourself. And this is why you don't make requests of people.
28:45
S0
It's all an ugly setup to keep your illusion in place and to allow them to keep their illusion in place so you don't ever find out what your relationship is. I can ask anything of anyone. I don't care. And they will say whatever they say. And then I will watch what they say because I'm gonna pay attention to whether their patterns are saying yes or they're saying yes or whether they're saying no or their patterns are saying no. Because if they don't get up to that magical point where they could fall either direction,
29:26
S0
I know that all I've done is reinforced a pattern here. And I also know that I'm not gonna get what I want, which is a human being doing it Uh-huh. Or not doing it, which is what I want. Yeah. I don't care about the doing of it or the not doing of it. I care about a human being surfacing.
29:50
S0
You get it's a bigger game than you think. It's about your relationship. It's not about the language, and it's not about getting anything done. It's about the relationship between two people. If you can't ask them, you have no relationship with them. If you can't say either yes or no to them, you have no relationship with them. And the fact underlying all of it is that you have a tremendous relationship with them, so all of it's lies.
30:15
S0
Follow? So the purpose of request and promise is to explore your relationship with another person. The purpose of an assertion is to explore your relationship with things out here.
30:32
S0
Relate to things. It's a lovely green marker.
30:41
S0
Sweet smelling. The best marker ever. The most incredible marker. So rather than finding out about your relationship to her, you find out about your relationship to a thing. I like this marker.
30:59
S0
I like this marker better than I like you.
31:03
S0
Come to think of it, I don't even wanna sell it. This is my marker.
31:10
S0
Because you do want everything, don't you? Does that dawn on you?
31:13
S3
That I want everything?
31:14
S0
Yeah.
31:15
S3
What do you I don't know
31:16
S0
what you mean.
31:17
S3
In in general, I want everything?
31:18
S1
Yeah. Are you sure?
31:19
S0
Everything.
31:22
S0
I mean, it'd be silly to want anything less, wouldn't it? I want everything. Absolutely everything.
31:31
S0
Well, it'd be insane to say you want some things. No. I want everything.
31:39
S0
Assertions are to find out your relationship with things. You use those with people when you wanna turn the people into things. Because if they're things, they're easy to deal with. They're easy to manipulate. You can pull off an arm here and an arm there. You can lay them over here, and they'll stay. You can do all of it. You can sand them down, paint them. You turn them into things.
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S0
The purpose of a declaration is to find out about your relationship
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With yourself.
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Yourself. So
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linguistically, you can find out about your relationship with others. You can find out about your relationship with things, and you can find out about your relationship with yourself.
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But if you don't know which one of these you're doing, you might accidentally turn her into a thing. You might accidentally misidentify who you are as something or somebody out here. You could make any number of different possible messes.
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The language of action is these first two.
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These are action.
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Jerry is referring to promises and requests.
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Assertion is
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epistemology philosophically and declaration is ontology.
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In other words, the study of being and the study of knowledge.
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And then strictly moving things along
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or moving people along or moving along and learning about your relationship with somebody.
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You have done almost everything you could to not find out what your relationship is with somebody. You get it?
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So sell them the marker, please.
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S3
I request that you buy this now.
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When? Now. Yeah. Put in the time. You're gonna have a tendency to leave out the I.
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You're gonna have a tendency to use some word other than request. You're gonna have a tendency to leave out the time because anything you leave out gives you a loophole that you can miss learning about your relationship and make up in your head what your relationship is with the person rather than finding out out here.
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S3
I request that you buy this marker now.
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S0
What is the big tilt of the head?
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S0
What is the the dance here? I request that you press smart now. For what he says?
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S1
Yes. Yes.
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Yes. All over her. She is underneath this saying, you will hurt me if you say no. This is an insurance person's ploy.
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You wanna take care of your kids, don't you? Jerry nods his head up and down.
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Got to get rid of the preference or the dignity disappears.
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S0
That's you. No. Not you. The relationship. No. So sell her the marker, please.
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S3
I request that you buy this marker now. Look at
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S0
the head. Can you believe it? It's like it's on a a a pivoting ball.
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S0
What is this? Is this really necessary? No. Pretty soon she's gonna be doing it because she can't help it. Do you have a preference for whether she says yes or no? I'm trying not to. Do you two live together or just No. No. Okay. But you're you're good friends?
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S1
We're partners. True.
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Does partners mean? Does that mean bridge? Yeah. And a lot more.
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That means many bridges. Good answer.
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Lots of different bridges.
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S0
Okay. Your partners and who don't live together. Right. Okay. We're lesbian lovers.
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I could get further into that, but I don't wanna make requests because I've always wondered not always, but I occasionally wonder exactly what that means.
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We do. Okay. Some kind of like Latin lovers.
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Lebanese. Yeah.
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S0
Lebanese lovers. I like that. Here are the she said that before though, I think, haven't you?
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S3
Ellen DeGeneres said it, actually. I took it from her.
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S0
Would you pay attention to a dyke?
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S0
Sorry.
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Yeah.
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S3
I want you to
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S0
buy this I marker want you to buy this marker now. Which one's
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S1
that? Assertion?
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No. Declaration? It's a declaration about a want in herself, which is she's now presenting the marker to you to find out about herself. You do see. That's trouble, isn't it? She's presenting the marker to find out about herself. Uh-oh. And she does. Mhmm. That puts a burden over here and a burden over here. And how quickly does it change from my request that you buy the marker now to I want you to buy the marker now? I will fall to pieces if you don't buy the marker now. My whole life will be worthless if you don't buy the marker now. I am down the tubes if you don't buy the marker now.
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S0
Look at this. Look at all of this in here. Look at the turmoil. This is the pressure that gets on, and all of a sudden, all kinds of stuff goes on.
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S0
What if you cared about her but not about what she says?
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S0
That'll help. Would that be interesting?
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S3
That'd be interesting.
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S0
What if you just plain out already had a relationship with her that wasn't contingent upon the transference of a marker?
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S0
Oh my god. Is there such a thing? Could you get that deep that the location of a marker didn't determine the relationship? I doubt it. I've never seen one, but I've read about them in poetry.
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S3
I request you buy this marker now.
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S0
Let's see that. Isn't it beautiful at the end with a tilt and the pulling up of the left thing and the little tilt of the head? And she goes she goes, you can disregard this completely if you want to.
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S3
But you'll pay for it then.
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S0
You can go.
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And probably when you least expect it. But it's coming.
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S3
I know I do this.
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Yeah. It may be time not to. Yeah. And it may take a little bit of work and a little play. But you gotta get to the point where she can say it. Otherwise, you got no relationship. You got some slimy routine of this would be a case of the good woman comes in the back door
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S0
because she says, you can say whatever you want.
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S0
No. She's thinking, no. You better not because if you say no, there's gonna be hell to pay, and it's gonna be a quiet hell. It's gonna be a little nagging hell that gets you when you just let's see. She didn't mark that one up. I'll store that one in here. She should have done something else there. Try again.
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S3
I request that you buy.
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S0
You get the automation of it all? Not like you wouldn't do this too. I
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S0
think you did it. Yeah. Woah. A little help from me, and you did it. Great. Now you're sorry. Right? Yeah. No. Yeah.
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S3
I didn't do it
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S0
myself. From Minnesota. You bet. Yeah. No. Yeah.
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S0
Could I apologize for myself any louder? I'm sorry. Hi. I'm sorry.
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S3
Hi. Me too. Hi.
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S0
Yeah. I'm really sorry. You aren't sorry, are you? You're not sorry. She's always sorry. Why'd you pick a sorry one?
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S3
Because I love her.
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S0
Oh, now I'm in
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S3
deep trouble.
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S3
Ungrounded. I know.
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S0
Is this uncomfortable enough? Yes.
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S0
A story won't hold you together.
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S3
No. Probably not.
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S0
Not for long and not where you wanna be? Yeah. K.
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S3
I request you buy this marker now.
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S0
Sure popped out of my head. God. Could they get any bigger? You get I mean, the simplest possible thing, a marker, who cares? And
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S3
If the eyes could only tell.
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And she does it fast right off the bat. How about waiting for the thirtieth response and then trying it? In other words, how about having a body first? Okay. How about filling your seven plus or minus two as a human being first? And then how about adding two or three of her into your thing up here? This weird thing you have up here. So here you are. Mhmm. You here? Mhmm. What if it isn't life or death, you guys? What if it really isn't life or death? Because you act like it's life or death. Like, you gotta do all these weird things.
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S3
Then it'll get a lot easier if it doesn't feel like it's life or death.
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S0
Then you'd really find out a lot about your relationship, and it would get down deep until it got down to where it wasn't the marker that was life or death. It was whether or not she's gonna leave you. It was all kinds of other things. It gets down to deeper and deeper and deeper stuff until finally, there you just are, you.