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204 utterances · click to jump
00:02
S0
Does it get how that influences you over here? Because it really is going on. What I'm doing is I'm walking stay there for a minute. I'm walking back and forth between these two,
00:14
S0
which means that I'm exploring the playing field. I don't want you.
00:19
S0
I want you.
00:24
S0
I really want you.
00:27
S0
I don't want any part of you no matter what.
00:33
S0
You've seen what happens over here when I do this? She has a preference for one over the other. By a preference for one over the other, she won't pay attention anytime it's where she doesn't want it. So then she shuts down and is gone during those times.
00:52
S0
So you start to lop out whole areas of your life that you can't attend to because they aren't the way that you have to think. You have to go back and forth between those two and then you have to expand it so that you can go back and forth between I hate her and I love her, all the way from I hate her to I love her. But you don't do that. You say, I'm married to her. She's the mother of my children, so I must hate her. No. I mean, love her. So I must love her. So you only attend to those times that you love her. And all the rest of them disappear.
01:37
S0
But they don't disappear. They sit right in there unobserved, unnoticed, having their way with you. And meanwhile, they accumulate. These get experienced and they disappear. These group together, form wild bands, roaming groups of terrorists, physical terrorists, mental terrorists, all sorts of terrorism starts to show up in your relationship. And pretty soon she does something and it kicks off something over here and you go, oh, God. I love her. And then the only way I can love her is by saying, I love her because I must love her. I don't have any more data that I love her. All I have is this stuff left that I didn't want to experience out and that I'm stuck with. You have to play on the playing field and you have to move back and forth between these. And think of this as maybe the plus and this is the minus. Please refer to the want diagram in your booklet. As you play in these, the whole middle area starts to collapse and the minus comes closer to the plus. Because you've played in the playing field, you've explored this playing field, the minus and the plus come together and pretty soon, not dick,
03:05
S0
the triumph of the center of nowhere had finally gotten to the center of nowhere. Well, congratulations.
03:16
S0
Nobody cares. You have to get the plus and the minus so close together so that you can both love her and hate her at the same moment. And when you love her and hate her at the same moment, you escape this whole plane and go to the place that you're just connected.
03:42
S0
And there, there's a different kind of love. There's a love that has no opposite.
03:48
S0
On the one you live on, it has an opposite. You go to where it has no opposite and then whoever you look at, you love. See, that's the bad news
04:00
S0
because then I love her and I love her and I love this and I love that and I do.
04:17
S0
It's your insecurities that keep you from loving everything, and then it's your insecurities that keep you from loving one person.
04:29
S0
To go from loving everything to loving one person would be too traumatic an event. Why would you do it?
04:41
S0
It would be obscene. It would be like a black hole. It would crush you. So your game is to love her and hate her both. You love Piggy and you hate Piggy, but currently, it's circumstantial, which brings it out to the very, very superficial thinnest layers. I need you to be able to sit across from him and love him and hate him and love him and hate him independent of all of your data, independent of your files, independent of what comes up. I need you to be able to create it as a declaration and, in fact, have it be the case in your body and fully in your mind. There you got a game. That one's worth playing. And the only thing in the way of you getting it fully in your body and your mind is your patterns.
05:38
S0
Oh, I can't do this, I can't do this, I shouldn't do that, I can't I must do that nuts.
05:48
S0
Which parts of this question didn't I answer?
05:53
S0
Any questions?
05:55
S1
So would you say
05:59
S0
What, by the way, if everything was a safe place? What if everybody was a safe person and everything was a safe place? That's where I live. No, it's much deeper than nice.
06:18
S0
Nice is a pretense of something.
06:25
S0
As a matter of fact, if you're working on somebody's cranium and you have a preference for them getting rid of something, your patterns are now in the way, as you probably fully know. You have to find whatever's going on with them as worthy of your attention and fascinating and interesting and be willing to have it last there forever
06:49
S0
before it can do anything. You have to. Otherwise, you aren't much of a worker at this sort of stuff. Well, you have to do the same in relationship. I have to be willing to have her run out with 84 other people, turn her back on me, do show me no respect, do all of whatever is the worst for me because believe me, whoever you're with for more than fifteen minutes knows how to get you. And the longer they're with you, the better they are at getting you. And you need to make sure that you're around somebody who gets you.
07:26
S0
You need to get gotten over and over again. That's what gets you out to the edge. Not in the same way. Remember how you measure the quality of a relationship, it's broken hearts per minute. If you get your heart broken once and it stays broken over a long period of time, that's down the tubes quality. She has to break it anew every moment. Over and over again we have people report that the most
07:56
S0
I don't remember exactly how we phrased it, but something like the most important moment in their life. You know what they report this as? Birth of a child.
08:08
S0
Being there and watching a child be born, that's what you have to do every moment. I hate to sound so Christian, but
08:19
S1
You say you show somebody that's bad for you? Somebody
08:23
S0
No, I didn't say that.
08:25
S1
Oh, you didn't say that?
08:26
S0
No. My my definition of bad for you would be that your patterns stay in place.
08:31
S1
That's what I meant. That's what I was actually asking you to clarify. If if I'm not attracted at all
08:38
S0
Yes. I should be. Then you should get pretty interested. Okay. Because chances are pretty good given how relationships have worked for you so far, given that they have been patterned so far, that you should probably find somebody like me.
08:59
S0
In other words, can't trust your patterns are gonna try and find someone with whom they get evidence for their existence.
09:11
S0
You you can't afford that because that will just reinforce your patterns again one more time.
09:21
S0
I'm not saying somebody who's bad for you. My definition of bad for you is that your patterns get reinforced one more time. Fred gets to try and help somebody once more who doesn't want help.
09:35
S0
If they want help, they've already got help.
09:39
S0
If they like process of having somebody try and help them and fall on their nose, then they're looking for somebody. And she was and she found him. And all I have to do is I watch Fred's face when he sees the one that he thinks he can help.
10:01
S0
And when I see the one that doesn't need any help, that doesn't want any help, that he's not attracted to at all, and it's
10:09
S0
it's that different. If you just pay a little bit of attention, you'd see it. And there it is. But I see him the next day after the one that he's trying to help and he's more automated, and he's more stuck, and he's more patterned. And I see him after he's been with the other one, and he's more insecure. They're right out front, and he's more open, and he's more curious, and he's got more attention to go around and he's far less patterned.
10:41
S0
Now that could shift at any point because his patterns could find a place to lock into to hide. Your game is to have it not lock in. If it locks in, you're done. That's when we count and if we count to three and it's still locked in, then you're out. You've been pinned.
11:01
S0
You're going steady. Too steady.
11:05
S1
Well, now that I'm learning more about this,
11:11
S1
and Kathy and I are the only two here that are in relationship for all of you to observe,
11:17
S1
I'm curious of what people see.
11:20
S0
Well, come on down.
11:25
S0
Okay. What did you say? What did you no. Forget your made up stuff. What did you just notice in their walks?
11:37
S1
Notice
11:41
S0
the difference in their walks. Mhmm. Because anything you attend to is gonna show you everything you need to know. We don't have to have them talk. We don't have to look at them. We just had to watch their walks.
11:56
S0
How does she walk? Can you do her walk?
12:02
S0
So do her walk, somebody.
12:13
S0
Much more energy into it though. Yeah. Okay? So now do her walk.
12:22
S0
Nope, you got them backwards. Okay. This walk is like this.
12:31
S0
Where's her focus? The future. Ahead. Her focus is on the future and out ahead. What's her walk?
12:42
S0
So her walk is vertical or at least it's this way. Her walk is horizontal, this way. So she's moving sideways, she's moving ahead.
12:57
S0
Well, that could make for some interesting stuff, couldn't it? We don't want them to be the same necessarily. We want to explore and watch how they fit.
13:10
S0
Now she's practicing something but it's not quite working. Which way is the energy flowing between these two?
13:18
S1
Up and down.
13:19
S0
Who's in charge of how it flows?
13:24
S0
Joan. Her philosophical statement is, I don't exist. Do something for me so I exist. Her philosophical statement is, I'm putting it all over the place.
13:40
S0
All over the place and I'm glad that some got on you because I really like you.
13:47
S0
So what we've got there, if you want to do it graphically or not because I'm going to anyway,
13:56
S0
is we've got this one who says, give it to me.
14:03
S0
And then we've got this other one who says, I'm putting it out all over the place. If some gets on you, I'm really delighted.
14:13
S0
So about as different as can be. Look at the two of them together. Which one do you look at? This tells you about your patterns.
14:25
S0
This instantaneously tells you about your patterns. Everywhere in the universe is a place to attend to your patterns.
14:36
S0
Raise your hand if you look at this one. Okay? Raise your hand if you look at this one. I think it's really a funny mix. Okay. The ones who look at this one, gather over on this side of the room.
14:53
S0
And the other ones gather on that side of the room, please.
14:58
S0
Okay. Which group do you wanna get to work together?
15:04
S0
Which group you're gonna hire to do the job? Pretend they're equal numbers. This group. Wouldn't you? You've got any question about it? It'd be this group, for sure. This is the misfits over here. Look at them. Look. No. Check it out though. Mhmm. Here you have a group and you perceive them as a group. Watch how you focus on them. It's a group and you it uses one bit of data. One bit of your seven plus or minus two, it's a group. There they are. It takes effort to look from person to person in the group because it's already a group. Now look over here. How many individuals we have? Seven. Yeah. They're all individuals. Yeah. So they demand each demand their own set of attention.
16:02
S0
Does that tell you anything about this one and this one? Doesn't it? It tells you a lot about this one and this one. She'd be in this group. She'd be in this group.
16:17
S0
Yay, whoever you are. Who cares?
16:26
S0
So we got cooperation over here and we got competition over here strangely. I know that doesn't fit because you're just a nice girl.
16:34
S1
No, it's bad.
16:37
S0
You see it? What else can you look for as far as there's so many parameters and the the worst part of this is you guys know all this to exactly where you are by ignoring as much of it as you possibly could.
16:58
S0
Look at them.
17:01
S0
How many raise your hand if you're really happy in the group you're in.
17:06
S0
Baloney.
17:09
S0
So these guys are one of their fundamental things is discontent. Look at them. Do you think I'm saying there's something wrong? I'm not saying there's anything wrong. I can't say that. I don't live in that world. You live in that world. I don't I can't get near that world. I can't get any closer than I get to you. I don't live in that world. I'm looking at isn't this interesting? Isn't and you see the difference. Can you see the difference?
17:41
S0
This requires a lot of shifts of attention. Not saying it's wrong and this just requires one. There you go. And this is patterns. So these two got together.
17:56
S0
So now she's got to learn to do her. They're far enough apart to be interesting, aren't they? Mhmm. Because they're pretty darn far apart here. They're far enough apart to be interesting. Now she has to figure out how to do her and she has to figure out how to do her. That'll be really fascinating because then they're gonna have points that they cross as they go back and forth that are more intimate than any point they've ever had in their life.
18:27
S0
And as they start to cross more often, they'll have more points that cross
18:32
S0
and they'll have the connection start to reveal themselves between the two of them. They're different enough to have it work, Now we get to find out how rutted they are and what they're in.
18:46
S0
She thinks she's more rutted than she thinks she is. You watch that? When I talk about that, you see how different their reactions are. Totally different. You get how we could do this with anybody. And you could pay attention to these parameters all the time. Now here, you be her and you be her.
19:12
S0
Nice.
19:16
S0
That's great. Congratulations.
19:21
S0
On that note, pair up please.
19:25
S0
Pair up please. What you lack in your life is you lack an observer who can watch this and tell you what's there.
19:35
S0
You show up at our house with somebody and I'll tell you exactly what's gonna happen for at least the next year or two unless you alter your patterns. And if you alter your patterns, I've got no clue what's going to happen. And that's the only relationship you want to be in if you're going to grow
20:00
S0
is have no clue what's going to happen. That's the only time you'd want to be there is if you have no clue what's going to happen.
20:11
S0
The easiest way to have relationship work is to have a reference. The third point here is a reference. A point that is independent of you and independent of you that you can both reference off of in order to determine your location. The only thing you're ever searching for in relationship is some reference to know where you are. You are to do all sorts of work here
20:46
S0
on earth which requires massive disorientation.
20:54
S0
You have generally defined all problems as having some disorientation in them. That's what a problem is when you get disoriented. But that's also what growth is. You need a relationship
21:11
S0
to orient you so that you can go way out
21:17
S0
and know where you're coming back to. So that you can have someone to hold the spot for you
21:27
S0
when you're going way out there.
21:30
S0
I go way out there when I'm leading. I lie here, Karen touches my feet. She touches my head for a period of time and here I am again. Where was I? I have no idea. But I've surrounded myself with people who can bring me back when it's time to bring me back. Sometimes the coming back is very peculiar.
21:57
S0
Sometimes it's very odd. It tends to look sometimes, not for an IC course but for advanced courses like the Personal Renaissance courses was true and GLOW courses it tends to be true. It looks like giving birth. It's coming back here to the shared craziness that all of you live in
22:22
S0
because I leave it to lead advanced courses, then I have to come back to it. I have to come back to it to deal with the kids. I have to come back to it to walk from here to there successfully.
22:38
S0
Relationship should provide you that grounding but it should also provide you the zing to go out, to go way, way out. And my suspicion is why many of you have a hard time in relationship is you attempt relationship as a competition to find out who gets the win, but you also do it in order to have a level of comfort. Relationship's not about comfort. If you get a little comfort, congratulations. But think of there you are and there's the edge. Wouldn't it be nice to have someone's hand to hold as you neared the edge?
23:23
S0
Sometimes they're on the edge side from you, sometimes they're further back this way.
23:29
S0
One of the little exercises that we've done in some courses before is the mountain climbing exercise.
23:38
S0
And that is very simply, we have everybody close their eyes and we say, Who in here would go mountain climbing with Linda? Meaning, who in here would trust Linda with their life?
23:56
S0
Who in here would trust Brian with their life? You don't get to just pick one. You get to pick whomever, as many as you want. And by that, you get a measure of who trusts you sufficiently to
24:12
S0
two measures. You get a measure about you, and you get a measure about them.
24:19
S0
The first time we ever did this, we had a man and a woman in the course who were married. She only got one vote.
24:27
S0
In the whole group of people, only one person said they would go mountain climbing with her. She voted for herself.
24:36
S0
You should have seen the look she gave her husband when she saw her vote.
24:43
S0
There was a little Italian guy at a course in Milwaukee many years ago when we did it and I miscounted and I wrote a much larger number by him than there was, and he behaved totally differently the whole rest of the day. He behaved like everyone trusted him. He became somebody. He became someone who was trustworthy. My goodness. If all these people are gonna trust me, I better get trustworthy.
25:20
S0
And someone who wasn't in the group in the back pointed out to me that I'd written the wrong number. I wasn't sorry I wrote the wrong number.
25:31
S0
Who in this group would you trust with your life? That also gives you data about your life, doesn't it?
25:39
S0
How closely you hold your life?
25:43
S0
How careful are you gonna be? Are you gonna be too careful about trusting them with your life, or are you gonna be too loose about trusting them with your life?
25:53
S0
Everything's about relationship.
25:58
S0
Everything there is because it's about the movement from you out and back in and that's relationship.
26:06
S0
And if relationship exists at the level of stories, it doesn't really exist at all. It's a very thin layer considering that you both have hearts and those are beating together, those are relating all the time.
26:21
S0
Now if they don't break often enough, they don't notice really that they're relating.
26:26
S0
So every exercise we do varying your visual auditory kinesthetic,
26:33
S0
arguing in blas,
26:36
S0
any number of things that we've done in here are all applicable to relationship because they're all about your growth and that's what relationship is about.
26:48
S0
But you can't have just the patterns relate or you're in trouble.
26:54
S0
The patterns won't pick what's best for you. The patterns will pick what's best for them to go on unnoticed,
27:05
S0
to go on and generate more of what they've generated right along.
27:12
S0
That's what patterns do. Their job is to make sure that they get to run.
27:17
S0
How was your lunch? Kind of fun?
27:24
S0
My mother was visiting a friend of hers once who was an engineer
27:31
S0
and it just to me is the perfect case of lack of generalization.
27:41
S0
She was opening a coffee can. Remember when coffee cans had the key? You take it off the bottom and you put it on. She was opening the coffee can but having a horrible time doing it. She had the key downward.
28:00
S0
And she was an engineer.
28:03
S0
But she had the key downward and that makes it very difficult to open it. She never considered having it upward. And it's like, oh, geez, you'd think they'd make these things easier.
28:18
S0
What are you missing
28:22
S0
right now? And what do you miss in relationship? And what do you miss when it gets a little tough that could make life a little easier? Little easier with it up. It's an awful lot more fun, isn't it?
28:42
S0
Awful lot more fun.
28:46
S0
So how differently would you shop for different people at the grocery store? How would you shop for yourself versus the Dalai Lama versus her versus whomever? What if you didn't just have to be stuck being your own specific set of limitations? And every once in a while and of course somebody says, but this really is who I am. It's not. There's no who I am. There wasn't a who I am before you were born. There clearly won't be a who I am after you're dead. What makes you think there's this little segment of genuine who I am in between? And if so, what kind of a difference could it make?
29:40
S0
There's not a who I am now.
29:44
S0
There's just a bundle of illusion.
29:50
S0
Here is another section where Jerry explores relationship.
29:57
S0
He's still losing it.
30:00
S0
You're gonna have to develop the ability to have the attention span so that you can hold her while she's not there. Otherwise, who's gonna hold her?
30:11
S0
Who's gonna hold her while she's at work? Who's gonna hold her while she's somewhere else? You need to be able to hold her wherever she is. Otherwise, what the heck's the point? Otherwise, you need some sort of proximity and then you don't even like the some sort of proximity, so you make up a whole bunch of things that they have to do if they're gonna prove to you that they like you.
30:37
S0
You have to take out the garbage. You have to do this. You have to do that. All of this is strictly from you not being able to carry them in your own head. What if you got them in your own head?
30:49
S0
I got her.
30:52
S0
And you can carry that around with you. I can't not.
30:58
S0
I can't not. I can't lose her. And you can't hold her unless she fulfills certain criteria. Right now proximity later on makes the bed and prepares dinner and whatever. You get it? You guys do this. Right? You start to make up all of these things that have to be fulfilled in order to indicate that she's there. What if she's already here? Then she doesn't have to do anything. Then you got a game that's calibrating to zero again. Remember me mentioning calibrating to zero? What if you didn't what if they didn't have to be a high jumper jumping over these things that you put in their way?
31:48
S0
What if you could just carry them right here?
31:51
S0
I gotcha.
31:54
S0
Do you know that? I got you all in the first old maybe minute.
32:02
S0
You're done for me. Our relationship is complete. It is. Who do you know who you care for, who your relationship is complete with? You keep it incomplete on purpose. You pretend like it's I I mean, you do all this weird stuff with it. You get it? What if it's already complete? What if it's already taken care of? Then whether she's standing over here or standing over here or standing over
32:39
S0
here or standing over here or standing right here. You
32:47
S0
can flirt with her when she's 30 miles away. And you know what? These bodies have the receptacles to pick that up. But if if you bother to work on your subtlety,
33:03
S0
it's already working, you guys. You guys just won't let it work. You won't let yourselves perceive that it works. What if she can't abandon you for nothing?
33:16
S0
She could fall over dead this moment, and you've still got her hair. Or she could be right in front of you kissing you, and you don't have her hair. Takes a lot of work not to have her there too. It takes a lot of work not to have her Mhmm. It does. Yeah. That's what that's what's coming How many of you have had sex and not had the other person there? It's a gross thing.
33:45
S0
Or sat at dinner and not had I'm off somewhere else. Sorry. Well, you're always off so yeah. Sorry.
33:54
S0
Well, if you hold her here, you're going to become an argument for her existence on the planet. That's gonna be pretty interesting to her. Not a conditional argument for existence, but a real argument for existence.
34:12
S0
Wouldn't that be weird? All of a sudden, he becomes a resource by his variability to think. Not variability, very ability to think.
34:26
S0
You make it conditional, and you make it superficial. You make it way out there in the superficial. You didn't take the garbage out. You don't let me anymore. And have you ever done this?
34:41
S0
And I guess that's because you don't wanna get hurt. Yeah. It's a protection game. Protection against the It's a protection game. If you could run her anytime? Right there. He there she is. There's Linda.
34:56
S0
It doesn't matter to me what she does. She can't bust us up. If she looks at me and screams, did you call me an asshole? She still can't bust us up.
35:12
S0
Then she gets out of the course and goes home and says, what a jerk. What a terrible waste of time. She can't bust us up anyway. And I continue to store not only her, but also her progress. So I become an argument for her progress.
35:34
S0
It's not hard.
35:37
S0
To not do this is hard. Mhmm. To do this is easy. To do this, all I gotta do is have enough attention to go around. But there is a disability that comes with it because I can't look at him and not still create her.
35:53
S0
I can look him and create him, but I'm still creating her. And when I turn from him to her, I've still got him, but you don't because you shut down in between. It's not necessary. What if one of your seven plus or minus two was everything?
36:20
S0
Didn't think of that, did you? No. What what what if one of your seven plus or minus two was everything? Then you'd always have everything.
36:32
S0
I didn't tell you there was a limit to the size it could be, did I? There's not.
36:41
S0
I can't lose it.
36:45
S0
And you get so full you can't hold it.
36:52
S0
A bit can be any size.
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For some people it would be a whole phone number, for some people one number, for some people, the universe. Then they got six left over. What are you gonna do with those? Well, you're gonna maybe get specific. Oh, Linda. I've got the universe and Linda. But see, if you get specific, all of a sudden, it hits a magical point where four out of the seven are Linda.
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And you go, oh, my God. She's occupying more of my area than I am, and you're really in trouble. Then she spits on you.
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She would. Look at her. I know she would. Yeah. No question about it. They do that out there. Oh, yeah. Up there.
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You know what I'm gonna say is I can't even hold a picture of myself in my head. It's gonna take a little practice. I was practicing last night Yeah. Before just looking at myself and say, what do I look like? It's gone. The practice is going to have dividends beyond anything you can imagine and they're non taxable.
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This is like muni dividends or muni interest. It's non taxable.
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And to not do it is very taxing because you lose everything all the time. Mhmm. Oh, where did I put her? What was my wife's name? Who who was she? I forget. I I yeah. Oh, this one. No. I I don't Michael.
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There she is. You could do worse, couldn't you? Yeah. I could do a lot worse. Yeah.
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I can't imagine while I look at her how you could possibly do any better,
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especially now. Yeah. How she looks right now. But then don't put it on her that she has to keep looking like this. It can't be conditional like that.
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I remember watching a video of Rajneesh getting interviewed.
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There are a few people I have nothing but respect for, but he's one of them and he's getting interviewed and this female reporter is saying, you know, I understand that you have sex with all of these followers and do you love them and do you and she's getting into all of these questions. This is a TV interview and he says, well, yes, you know, I do and I haven't recently because I'm sick, but if I get well again, they should watch out. You know, it's all just made up. He's just goofing around with him. And she's buying it, and she says, well, do you have some very special woman? And he says, I do.
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Right now, it's you. You
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are the only woman for me. And it gets in. Look at him.
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That's what a little attention will do. And she gets it.
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So what if you could play around with that and what if they couldn't abandon you? Now I want you to do the same exercise, only I want you to have a picture of them in your head. And maintain the picture whether they're gone or back. And work on maintaining the picture and find out how that influences the whole rest of the system. Go.
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Here is a final wrap up. Can you imagine living in a world where everybody loves you? Everywhere I go, they love me. Even when even when they aren't there, they love me.
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We're living in the world of illusion here, you guys. You can make it up any way you want, and you did.
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But then you forgot you made it up. Do do you follow that? You forgot you made it up. You made it up. You made it up that they tell the truth. Is that weird? How many of you raise your hand if you've ever had somebody tell you that they loved you
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when in fact you knew that they didn't. Raise your hand. Look around. You. Look around.
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So you might not want to trust what they say. Here's another one. How many of you have fallen in love with the garbage man?
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Isn't that one wouldn't that require that?
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Because the garbage man always takes the garbage out.
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Long snuggling, get a dog.
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But only a particular breed. Golden retriever would be good. Irish setter is not a good idea unless you get a really old one.
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I love this one. This is almost grounded, allowing you to be who you are.
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I'm waiting. What are you waiting for? I'm allowing you I'm waiting for I'm waiting for you to allow me to be who I are.
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How do I do that? I don't know, but I'm waiting. But
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you did look at somebody and say Yeah. They love me or they don't. And I love you or I don't. How do you know when you love somebody?
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Is it dependent on stuff in them? If so, your response, that ain't love.
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Responses can't love. Responses just can be hooked to stimuli. That's it. That they then excuse. Oh, I didn't mean to do this. I just had to because this was there. What if love was a creation?
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So I'll just give you an example. This is how I define love.
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Inclusion.
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Anyone I include as myself, that's love.
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If I view them other than me, it's not love.
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So then I better start working on my ability to include, don't you think? Imagine what that does for triangulations.
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If everybody
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is included, that would make a really interesting world, wouldn't it?